There are many different views of Reincarnation and they all carry consequences, just as any statement that can be made. This discussion is a fork off of Jon Fergus' "Reincarnation" discussion. In this case we would like to look at the consequences of the different ideas.
What difference does it make if we come back as a human, higher being or even a cockroach? Why is it important?
Why should there be a relationship between consciousness and form? Are we implying that somehow humans are privileged? Why?
Give it some thought and we would love to see your answers.
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The concept of reincarnation is based on the presumption that it is possible to predict the consequence of a cause using a fixed formula like the analogy of credit and debit of accountancy. It may be a great concept in keeping the flock under control by giving them the periodic statement of accounts showing ever accumulating credits. But can it be real?
I wonder if it is possible to think about reincarnation in a vacuum, so to speak. I feel that reincarnation and karma are linked in such a way that one cannot be considered without the other. Perhaps in this case, I would say that it isn't important what form we incarnate into, as it is dictated by our karmic experiences, desires, unfinished business, etc. I feel that it is more about the process, than the end goal.
I am new to Theosophy, but is not Karma its basic tenet? I read on Theosophical Society's page the following:
http://www.theosophical.org/about-us/theosophy/theosophy-what-is-it
"The cycle of reincarnation is ruled by the law of cause and effect. As Saint Paul says--whatever we sow, we will inevitably reap. This is the law of karma by which we weave our own destiny through the ages. It is the great hope for humanity, for it gives us the opportunity to create our future by what we do in the present.
Hi Jon,
I agree completely that both aspects are guided by the process of evolution. A mostly intuitive, and somewhat educated, guess is that we are finding our way back to the One; going through the different dimensions of experiences. I read in the Flower of Life volumes that we 'fell' from higher dimensions into denser ones, in order to experience being matter, while experiencing the 'pilgrimage' as discusses by H. Blavatsky in the Secret Doctrine. I resonate with these concepts. But, I have much to learn :)
I suppose this does inherently indicate that we do not go backward. However, I wonder if it is as straight forward as that. As we mentioned, Karma may dictate Reincarnation. So, who is to say that I don't have unfinished business from the time I was a cat :))
Hi, friends!
The most important consequence of reencarnation to me is the chance to learn.The duration of one body is not at all enough to attain wisdom, but if somewhere a Central Information Server (words by our friend Capt. Anand) keeps the little I can manage to learn in each encarnation, there'll be a day that I'll become wise!!! And then, freedom!!! (or at last the knowledge of the kind of business I'm in;-)
I can't believe a cat's nervous system deserves ME downloaded into him. There is a relationship between form and capacity of expression, and conscience in its objective sense is the capacity of the nervous system to respond to stimulus from the world. In this sense,a wider range of stimulus that can be responded might be understood as a privilege.
But, of course, true consciousness is not objective and needs no relationship with any form as it's eternal, everywhere, etc... so there seems to be no reason why should ever be a relationship between consciousness as it is and any form... is "to have fun" a reason why there should be anything?
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