Trapping God in the schema of your belief, takes you further away from him / her / it.......them
by Jiddhu Krishnamurti
A man who believes in God can never find God. If you are open to reality, there can be no belief in reality. If you are open to the unknown, there can be no belief in it. After all, belief is a form of self-protection, and only a petty mind can believe in God. Look at the belief of the aviators during the war who said God was their companion? as they were dropping bombs! So you believe in God when you kill, when you are exploiting people. You worship God and go on ruthlessly extorting money, supporting the army-yet you say you believe in mercy, compassion, kindliness.
As long as belief exists, there can never be the unknown; you cannot think about the unknown, thought cannot measure it. The mind is the product of the past, it is the result of yesterday, and can such a mind be open to the unknown? It can only project an image, but that projection is not real; so your god is not God - it is an image of your own making, an image of your own gratification. There can be reality only when the mind understands the total process of itself and comes to an end. When the mind is completely empty - only then is it capable of receiving the unknown. The mind is not purged? until it understands the content of relationship-its relationship with property, with people-until it has established the right relationship with everything. Until it understands the whole process of conflict in relationship, the mind cannot be free.
Only when the mind is wholly silent, completely inactive, not projecting, when it is not seeking and is utterly still, only then that, which is eternal and timeless, comes into being.
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Permalink Reply by Ferran Sanz Orriols on
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Yeah, true!!! Of course "my" god is not the real one!!!
If it's mine, it's smaller than me, so it cannot be god but an idol.
It's not that god belongs to me, but that I belong to god. I'm a religious man who does not indulge in believing: I practice because of practice itself, I serve because of service itself, I worship because of worship itself. This makes me stronger. If I attached "believes" to it, it would become conditioned and in consequence weaken me.
A big hug, friends!!! ( a central practice in my religion :)
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Permalink Reply by Lj on
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The problem is we keep looking for personal messages from God. We shouldn't. This is what is meant by individualizing the faith. Everyone starts getting private messages from God
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Permalink Reply by William John Meegan on
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I don't believe in God I know that there is a God. Belief implies doubt and I have absolutely no doubts that there are spiritual forces in the soul/psyche of the individual that is there to aid him or her.
Silence is inaction and I do understand that kind of meditation because in invokes the Animal Envoy; whereas, my active meditation invokes rather the Hermetic Sciences. There are two kinds of spirituality and neither are wrong: the Way of the Animal Envoy and the Way of the Seeded Earth: Hermetic Science.
Yes, I do believe in what you said: your God is not my God and my God is not your God. If most people knew for a certainty how true that was they would go stock raving mad. I am dead serious when I say that.
In ancient Israel and the surrounding regions almost every single town had its own Baal (god). Even the Old Testament calls Yahweh a Baal (several times). Every single one of those towns though their gods (baals) had different names (variations on a theme) they all had the same attributes, with slight differences, as Yahweh. In modernity it will be difficult for the average person to realize that his or her reason d'etre is in essence YAHWEH. Each person reason for existence is different and this reason d'etre is what Yahweh: your personal Baal will enforce, whether it be good or bad.
The perfect example I can give is the bible story of Adam and Eve and the Serpent. Now the serpent was literally the spiritual angel and Michelangelo depicted Yahweh as a wrathful angel on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. Everybody thinks the serpent is evil. It is evil (though it is spiritual) because it enticed Eve away from her reason d'etre in life. Thus Adam and Eve were punished for doing what was right for them even though it was against their reason d'etre that God gave to them at birth. Thus they were cast out of the Garden of Eden.
Let me try to explain this in another way. Say you enjoy alcoholic beverages. As time goes by you drink a little more and a little more until you become a full blown alcoholic. Well drinking was pleasant in the beginning: it was your Garden of Eden, which you were previledge to receive at birth. However, all illnesses get worse as life is lived to longevity. Now you are beginning to feel the pangs of alcoholism: you loose your job, your wife, your home, your children, your friends and finally it comes to you to simply quit drinking. However, that is not as easy as it sounds. No matter how much pain and suffering you are going through that is your Garden of Eden: your reason d'etre and Yahweh:your personal god: Baal will make sure that you stay in that garden: you will not disobey him. But now comes the serpent and tells you to stop drinking and tell you how to do it. And then you suffer the horrors of withdrawal and you find yourself in a vacuum because now you don't know what to do with all the extra time on your hands. You have been cast out of your Garden of Eden into a vast void: emptiness, the wilderness of the mind of man. You will suffer greatly until you are given a new Garden of Eden: reason d'etre.
Yes, you are quite right in saying we each have our own god and boy is he's a humdinger.
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