Comments - The Invisible Founders of the Theosophical Society: Rescue Them from Historical Amnesia - Theosophy.Net2024-03-29T15:33:59Zhttps://theosophy.net/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=3055387%3ABlogPost%3A78343&xn_auth=noHave just learned that Franci…tag:theosophy.net,2011-09-11:3055387:Comment:787352011-09-11T16:14:24.763ZK. Paul Johnsonhttps://theosophy.net/profile/KPaulJohnson
Have just learned that <a href="http://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=%22francisco+agramonte%22%2Bcuba" target="_blank">Francisco Agramonte</a> was a Cuban-born Spanish subject who became a naturalized American citizen shortly before the TS was founded. He was a <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=778QAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA463&dq=%22francis+agramonte%22&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false" target="_blank">slaveholder</a> in 1878 when his freeing of his slaves was noted…
Have just learned that <a target="_blank" href="http://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=%22francisco+agramonte%22%2Bcuba">Francisco Agramonte</a> was a Cuban-born Spanish subject who became a naturalized American citizen shortly before the TS was founded. He was a <a target="_blank" href="http://books.google.com/books?id=778QAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA463&dq=%22francis+agramonte%22&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false">slaveholder</a> in 1878 when his freeing of his slaves was noted in a Canadian journal. And later he became a <a target="_blank" href="http://books.google.com/books?id=hGQYAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA41&lpg=PA41&dq=%22francisco+agramonte%22%2Bcuba&source=bl&ots=cytqZ1HMFn&sig=MENny-vZvHTTXDQdd1KghljrnS4&hl=en#v=onepage&q=%22francisco%20agramonte%22%2Bcuba&f=false">revolutionary</a>. He <a target="_blank" href="https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MY9P-851/p4">married</a> in New York in 1870. In 1893 he became a <a target="_blank" href="http://books.google.com/books?id=QygxAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA315&dq=%22francis+agramonte%22&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false">dentist</a>. These links may not all be to the same person, and I'll follow up later but wanted to share what I had found. Thanks, L.A. All the "whatev…tag:theosophy.net,2011-09-10:3055387:Comment:784602011-09-10T22:55:50.847ZK. Paul Johnsonhttps://theosophy.net/profile/KPaulJohnson
Thanks, L.A. All the "whatever happened to" research on the Brittens has been done by Marc Demarest, and his <a href="http://ehbritten.org" target="_blank">website on Emma</a> also includes reports on recent research on George H. Felt, about whom James Santucci had previously published a fair amount. H.J. Newton and James Wiggin also have a lot of info already done in print. If you're interested in British Spiritualists, maybe you could do some googling of Charles C. Massey or looking into…
Thanks, L.A. All the "whatever happened to" research on the Brittens has been done by Marc Demarest, and his <a target="_blank" href="http://ehbritten.org">website on Emma</a> also includes reports on recent research on George H. Felt, about whom James Santucci had previously published a fair amount. H.J. Newton and James Wiggin also have a lot of info already done in print. If you're interested in British Spiritualists, maybe you could do some googling of Charles C. Massey or looking into books? He was a founding board member of the Society for Psychical Research and fell out with the TS over the various fraud charges, but I have no idea what happened to him thereafter. The list seems to start with…tag:theosophy.net,2011-09-10:3055387:Comment:781062011-09-10T13:35:26.037ZK. Paul Johnsonhttps://theosophy.net/profile/KPaulJohnson
<p>The list seems to start with 16 at the first meeting, expand to 21 at the second, and expand to 24, or maybe remain 21, at the third and final one. Here is a <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=9tstarWsoVAC&pg=PA121&lpg=PA121&dq=delara%2Bolcott&source=bl&ots=jUDIRzU1Lu&sig=TxuEySkd1Sy46YwfCAlQdbOknsM&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false" target="_blank">link</a> to the section of Old Diary Leaves that describes them. We start with 16 (HSO's order): Olcott,…</p>
<p>The list seems to start with 16 at the first meeting, expand to 21 at the second, and expand to 24, or maybe remain 21, at the third and final one. Here is a <a target="_blank" href="http://books.google.com/books?id=9tstarWsoVAC&pg=PA121&lpg=PA121&dq=delara%2Bolcott&source=bl&ots=jUDIRzU1Lu&sig=TxuEySkd1Sy46YwfCAlQdbOknsM&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false">link</a> to the section of Old Diary Leaves that describes them. We start with 16 (HSO's order): Olcott, Blavatsky, Sotheran, Simmons, Monachesi, Massey, Alden, Felt, de Lara, Britten, Britten, Newton, Cobb, Hyslop, Judge, and Stevens, meeting on September 8, 1875. At the second meeting we have 18, of whom 5 are new: Agromonte, Ralphs, Horton, Atkinson, and Carlos. (Meaning three at the first meeting missed the second) None of these appears in later lists of TS founders or formers. Yet Horton and Atkinson were both vote counters at the last organizational meeting. By the final meeting we have Wiggin, Westbrook and Pancoast added, all as officers. So we should presumably be up to 24 here. Certainly founding officers are entitled to be called founders, despite Olcott's previous gesture excluding them even from being "formers" because they were not part of the original 16. But as for some of the others, it's very unclear what their status is.</p>
<p>ITo sum up, when we add all the various lists given by Olcott we end up with a total of 24 names. 13 officers and two vote tellers:</p>
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<p>Plus 9 other non-officers named in the previous proceedings: "formers" Massey, Alden, Hyslop, Stevens, Simmons, and William Britten, and later arrivals Ralphs, Carlos, and Agromonte. Having never seen the latter three included in any list of TS founders, I'll focus on the 21 in this thread.</p>
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<p> </p> Thanks, Paul, for the info. I…tag:theosophy.net,2011-09-09:3055387:Comment:784402011-09-09T17:29:57.484ZMichael A. Williamshttps://theosophy.net/profile/MichaelAWilliams
<p>Thanks, Paul, for the info. I'd checked William Walker Atkinson's Wikipedia and figured he wasn't this Dr. W.H. Atkinson, but thought maybe they may have been distant relatives. There is still that remote possibility, as the obituary for Dr. W.H Atkinson dwelled only on his dental career. Whether they were or not related is of little consequence now, though. </p>
<p>What may be of some interest to Theosophical historians is whether William Walker Atkinson ever had any professional…</p>
<p>Thanks, Paul, for the info. I'd checked William Walker Atkinson's Wikipedia and figured he wasn't this Dr. W.H. Atkinson, but thought maybe they may have been distant relatives. There is still that remote possibility, as the obituary for Dr. W.H Atkinson dwelled only on his dental career. Whether they were or not related is of little consequence now, though. </p>
<p>What may be of some interest to Theosophical historians is whether William Walker Atkinson ever had any professional collaboration with Mabel Collins. THE KYBALION, published around 1906, by "The Three Initiates" is now a must read for any Hermeticist.</p>
<p>It's fairly well established that W.W. Atkinson was one of the "Initiates," and Paul Foster Case was the second. Evidently, some people familiar with Mabel Collin's writing site her as the possible third, as some stylistic elements in the book are close to hers. But, that will probably be very difficult to pin down definitively at this point in time.</p> It turns out that our TS advi…tag:theosophy.net,2011-09-09:3055387:Comment:784312011-09-09T09:32:08.421ZK. Paul Johnsonhttps://theosophy.net/profile/KPaulJohnson
It turns out that our TS advisor Dr. W.H. Atkinson was a Pennsylvania-born dentist who had lived in Ohio before coming to New York. Here's his <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=MysxAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA411&lpg=PA411&dq=%22William+h.+atkinson%22%2Bwoodruff&source=bl&ots=gvOKp-KgCA&sig=N_P5Y8nTBQyIqyOpSgIYW5Yydpk&hl=en#v=onepage&q=%22William%20h.%20atkinson%22%2Bwoodruff&f=false" target="_blank">obituary</a>. Whereas William Walker, of the many pseudonyms,…
It turns out that our TS advisor Dr. W.H. Atkinson was a Pennsylvania-born dentist who had lived in Ohio before coming to New York. Here's his <a target="_blank" href="http://books.google.com/books?id=MysxAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA411&lpg=PA411&dq=%22William+h.+atkinson%22%2Bwoodruff&source=bl&ots=gvOKp-KgCA&sig=N_P5Y8nTBQyIqyOpSgIYW5Yydpk&hl=en#v=onepage&q=%22William%20h.%20atkinson%22%2Bwoodruff&f=false">obituary</a>. Whereas William Walker, of the many pseudonyms, was born in Baltimore. Here's his <a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Walker_Atkinson">Wikipedia entry</a>. Glad you asked, as the same question had occurred to me. Paul, you've certainly dug de…tag:theosophy.net,2011-09-09:3055387:Comment:782572011-09-09T02:21:22.431ZMichael A. Williamshttps://theosophy.net/profile/MichaelAWilliams
<p>Paul, you've certainly dug deep into Theosophical history. One name stands out to me at the moment, and that is Dr. W. H. Atkinson.</p>
<p>There's a William Walker Atkinson who is one of the pioneers of the "New Thought" movement around the turn of the 20th century. To be brief, this W. W. Atkinson wrote under a number of pseudonyms on the subject of Occultism, Western Metaphysics, applied Eastern thought, etc. He was very prolific and his writings are having a certain "come back," as it…</p>
<p>Paul, you've certainly dug deep into Theosophical history. One name stands out to me at the moment, and that is Dr. W. H. Atkinson.</p>
<p>There's a William Walker Atkinson who is one of the pioneers of the "New Thought" movement around the turn of the 20th century. To be brief, this W. W. Atkinson wrote under a number of pseudonyms on the subject of Occultism, Western Metaphysics, applied Eastern thought, etc. He was very prolific and his writings are having a certain "come back," as it were.</p>
<p>The point is, although born in 1862, he'd be too young to have been involved in the beginnings of Theosophy, his father was also named "William," though don't know the middle initial. Not a lot is known about Willam Walker Atkinson's personal life, but there's evidence he was involved professionally with Mabel Collins, mentioned here in another blog as having been at one time influencial in Theosophy.</p>
<p>Question is: Could this William Walker Atkinson be related to Dr. W. H. Atkinson?</p>