Comments - Beyond Reductionism (1) - Theosophy.Net2024-03-29T09:37:32Zhttps://theosophy.net/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=3055387%3ABlogPost%3A45584&xn_auth=noMichael said:
"Martin, thanks…tag:theosophy.net,2011-04-18:3055387:Comment:458602011-04-18T06:49:23.570ZMartin Euserhttps://theosophy.net/profile/MartinEuser
<div class="description xj_comment_editor" id="desc_3055387Comment45758"><p>Michael said:</p>
<p>"Martin, thanks for posting. There are several aspects that reductionism/materialism can be undermined at. I'm looking forward to the future posts."</p>
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<p>Michael: you could even consider contributing a little in this arena!</p>
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<div class="description xj_comment_editor"><p>"In response to your statement "there are some clear thinkers in that arena, though, I think," I'd…</p>
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<div class="description xj_comment_editor" id="desc_3055387Comment45758"><p>Michael said:</p>
<p>"Martin, thanks for posting. There are several aspects that reductionism/materialism can be undermined at. I'm looking forward to the future posts."</p>
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<p>Michael: you could even consider contributing a little in this arena!</p>
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<div class="description xj_comment_editor"><p>"In response to your statement "there are some clear thinkers in that arena, though, I think," I'd say there are many scientists that don't agree with the materialist paradigm, but they are in the minority."</p>
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<p>Yes. Having been around in academia for almost twenty years, including my student time, I have witnessed some of this "inquisition" mindset of the scientific community. From scientists ripping posters of alternative lectures of the wall, to denigratory remarks on behalf of those who promote qualitative methods to keeping silent on relevant remarks from my side on the human faculty of intuition to abuse of co-assistents. It's a pack of wolves over there.</p>
<p>There are certainly those who deviate from mainstream, but they usually keep their mouth shut. They don't want to be ostracized like Halton Arp and many others, who dare to promote alternative ideas. Clear thinking involves clear speaking in one's community for me, hence expresses courage. This is not the time for fear anymore.</p>
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</div> Martin, thanks for posting. T…tag:theosophy.net,2011-04-18:3055387:Comment:457582011-04-18T00:50:54.483ZMichael A. Williamshttps://theosophy.net/profile/MichaelAWilliams
<p>Martin, thanks for posting. There are several aspects that reductionism/materialism can be undermined at. I'm looking forward to the future posts.</p>
<p>In response to your statement "there are some clear thinkers in that arena, though, I think," I'd say there are many scientists that don't agree with the materialist paradigm, but they are in the minority.</p>
<p>Martin, thanks for posting. There are several aspects that reductionism/materialism can be undermined at. I'm looking forward to the future posts.</p>
<p>In response to your statement "there are some clear thinkers in that arena, though, I think," I'd say there are many scientists that don't agree with the materialist paradigm, but they are in the minority.</p> David wrote: "I fully agree w…tag:theosophy.net,2011-04-17:3055387:Comment:456032011-04-17T21:43:09.432ZMartin Euserhttps://theosophy.net/profile/MartinEuser
<p>David wrote: "I fully agree with you. So how do you get scientists to read it? Or what is even harder, how do you get them to take this seriously?""</p>
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<p>First of all, they must know of its existence! Usually, information considered as threatening to the established belief system is swept under the carpet, ignored, etc. Broadcasting this info through the internet is a very good first step. Perhaps trying to involve some open-minded scientists to even further publicize this info is…</p>
<p>David wrote: "I fully agree with you. So how do you get scientists to read it? Or what is even harder, how do you get them to take this seriously?""</p>
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<p>First of all, they must know of its existence! Usually, information considered as threatening to the established belief system is swept under the carpet, ignored, etc. Broadcasting this info through the internet is a very good first step. Perhaps trying to involve some open-minded scientists to even further publicize this info is a good next step. It all takes time to re-educate brain-washed scientists. How do members of a sect get deprogrammed? Usually this means that they have to leave the sect (of scientism, in this case). Not a fine perspective for scientists. Sad, but true. There are some clear thinkers in that arena, though, I think.</p>
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<p> </p> Martin wrote:
"Wow, IMO, this…tag:theosophy.net,2011-04-17:3055387:Comment:457542011-04-17T20:38:03.978ZDavid Reiglehttps://theosophy.net/profile/DavidReigle
<p>Martin wrote:</p>
<p>"Wow, IMO, this book should be reprinted and be obligatory study material for every student on the globe!"</p>
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<p>I fully agree with you. So how do you get scientists to read it? Or what is even harder, how do you get them to take this seriously?</p>
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<p>Martin wrote:</p>
<p>"Wow, IMO, this book should be reprinted and be obligatory study material for every student on the globe!"</p>
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<p>I fully agree with you. So how do you get scientists to read it? Or what is even harder, how do you get them to take this seriously?</p>
<p> </p> From the back flap of the boo…tag:theosophy.net,2011-04-17:3055387:Comment:458482011-04-17T12:26:10.196ZMartin Euserhttps://theosophy.net/profile/MartinEuser
<p>From the back flap of the book: <br></br>'Specifically, <em>Beyond Reductionism</em> provides a refutation of, in Arthur Koestler's words', "the four pillars of unwisdom":</p>
<p>'that biological evolution is the result of nothing but random mutations preserved by natural selection;</p>
<p>that mental evolution is the result of nothing but random tries preserved by reinforcements; that all organisms, including man, are nothing but passive automata controlled by the environment, whose sole…</p>
<p>From the back flap of the book: <br/>'Specifically, <em>Beyond Reductionism</em> provides a refutation of, in Arthur Koestler's words', "the four pillars of unwisdom":</p>
<p>'that biological evolution is the result of nothing but random mutations preserved by natural selection;</p>
<p>that mental evolution is the result of nothing but random tries preserved by reinforcements; that all organisms, including man, are nothing but passive automata controlled by the environment, whose sole purpose in life is the reduction of tensions by adaptive responses;</p>
<p>and that the only scientific method worth that name is quantitative measurement, with the consequence that complex phenomena must be reduced to simple elements accessible to such treatment, without undue worry whether the specific characteristics of a complex phenomenon - for instance, man - may be lost in the process.'</p>
<p>Wow, IMO, this book should be reprinted and be obligatory study material for every student on the globe!</p>