Yuga Cycles - Theosophy.Net2024-03-29T08:14:54Zhttps://theosophy.net/forum/topics/yuga-cycles?commentId=3055387%3AComment%3A80916&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIt means that this chart is w…tag:theosophy.net,2011-11-08:3055387:Comment:862012011-11-08T23:27:36.240ZPaulo Baptistahttps://theosophy.net/profile/PauloBaptista
<p>It means that this chart is wrong?</p>
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<p><a href="http://theosophywatch.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/4th-round.pdf" target="_blank">http://theosophywatch.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/4th-round.pdf</a></p>
<p>It means that this chart is wrong?</p>
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<p><a href="http://theosophywatch.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/4th-round.pdf" target="_blank">http://theosophywatch.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/4th-round.pdf</a></p> ‘Religious movements and revo…tag:theosophy.net,2011-10-01:3055387:Comment:809082011-10-01T03:27:23.531ZLori Tompkinshttps://theosophy.net/profile/360lotus
<em>‘Religious movements and revolutions have come and gone or left their mark but after all and through all the Veda remains to us our Rock of the Ages, our eternal foundation.... The Upanishads, mighty as they are, only aspire to bring out, arrange philosophically in the language of later thinking and crown with the supreme name of Brahman the eternal knowledge enshrined in the Vedas. Yet for some two thousand years at least no Indian has really understood the Vedas.’</em> Sri Aurobindo,…
<em>‘Religious movements and revolutions have come and gone or left their mark but after all and through all the Veda remains to us our Rock of the Ages, our eternal foundation.... The Upanishads, mighty as they are, only aspire to bring out, arrange philosophically in the language of later thinking and crown with the supreme name of Brahman the eternal knowledge enshrined in the Vedas. Yet for some two thousand years at least no Indian has really understood the Vedas.’</em> Sri Aurobindo, <em>India’s Rebirth</em> (emphasis added).<br/><br/>
It is worth considering that the 2,000-year extended lack of understanding of the Vedas that Sri Aurobindo points out, extends our modern-day understanding of the Yuga cycles.<br/><br/>
I have been reading up on the characteristics of Kali <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the Goddess</span>, figuring there must be clues to the true nature of the Kali Yuga as a measure of the Precession of the Equinoxes in the mythology and iconography of the goddess. As pointed out in a previous note, Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet describes the Kali Yuga as a unit of measure covering 4 astrological ages of the 12-age Precession. 3 Kali Yuga (Treta Yuga) equals a full Precessional cycle. In this seeing of the Yugas, Kali Yuga is a measure, not a manifest age. Interestingly enough the goddess Kali is known to have 4 arms and to carry the 3 pronged Trident as her weapon. She is also known as an incarnation of Shakti/Parvati who is the wife of Shiva (a member of the Trimurti or Trinity of Vedic Gods: Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva). I read this about her on Wikipedia: <br/>
<blockquote>‘She is often depicted naked which symbolizes her being beyond the covering of Maya since she is pure (nirguna) being-consciousness-bliss and far above prakriti. She is shown as very dark as she is brahman in its supreme unmanifest state. She has no permanent qualities — she will continue to exist even when the universe ends. It is therefore believed that the concepts of color, light, good, bad do not apply to her — she is the pure, un-manifested energy, the Adi-shakti.’</blockquote>
With these characteristics in mind, is not too farfetched, to see Kali Yuga as ‘unmanifest’ and to understand <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the Goddess <em>and</em> the Yuga</span> as inseparable from the Trinity that is so fundamental to Vedic mythology and gnosis. The mathematics of Kali’s persona do beg some consideration … the 4 arms and a 3 pronged trident are the very essence of the 12 month Zodiac, which is divided into 4 seasons of 3 months each, and is also based on the 4 elements (fire, water, air and earth) and 3 gunas (rajas, sattva, tamas or creation, preservation, destruction/dissolution). Also Kali wears a garland of 108 human heads. The sacredness of the number 108 is literally a product of its factors 9 and 12 (9 x 12 = 108). These are the formative numbers of our cyclical/circular 9/0 number system and our 12 month year inherited from Vedic civilization. Learning to see these two numbers as formative divisions of the One Circle of life, just as the 3 and the 4 are formative divisions of the One Circle of life is an important key to developing some understanding of the Vedic cycles of time (as discussed in <em><a href="http://www.patrizianorellibachelet.com/TGC.html" target="_blank">The Gnostic Circle</a></em>).<br/><br/>
Trying to understand the Yuga cycles without these keys, I truly think, is something of a wild goose chase … trying to decipher, read and accurately interpret an ancient sacred code with the wrong cipher. <br/><br/>
Shakti (part of the <strong>Tri</strong>devi of Saraswati, Lakshmi and Parvati/Shakti) is known as the source of all forms (sarvarupe) and as the power that mobilizes the immobile. In other words, she informs the geometries and dynamics of time and space. The whole matrix comes to being and into motion through her geometries and dynamics. Shakti’s incarnation as Kali, ‒ the dark one, associated with death and the destructive nature of time ‒, can better be understood in terms of how the Mother/Material Creation <em>seems</em> when TIME IS NOT SEEN and EXPERIENCED in its proper measures and proper light … i.e. She is seen and experienced by our ‘darkened’ consciousness as fearsome and destructive … as a killer. But this is not Ma Shakti’s (Parvati’s) true nature. <br/><br/>
The fact alone that our Vedic ancestors structured their gnosis and hence their civilization firmly on a vision of a <strong>Triadic-Oneness</strong>, should give students of the Yugas reason enough to seriously consider that our Vedic ancestors also measured the Precession of the Equinoxes in terms of a Triadic-Cycle – i.e. one great cycle made up of 3 Yugas (TretaYuga) –, each Yuga consisting of 432,000 seconds of degrees of arc. <br/><br/>
<br/> Or he learns the steps of a g…tag:theosophy.net,2011-09-30:3055387:Comment:811432011-09-30T22:10:26.088ZGerry Kiffehttps://theosophy.net/profile/GerryKiffe
Or he learns the steps of a good rain dance.
Or he learns the steps of a good rain dance. Once a civil engineer always…tag:theosophy.net,2011-09-30:3055387:Comment:811392011-09-30T20:08:53.509ZGerry Kiffehttps://theosophy.net/profile/GerryKiffe
Once a civil engineer always a civil engineer? Do you know the Buddhist story of the man with the arrow in his arm?
Once a civil engineer always a civil engineer? Do you know the Buddhist story of the man with the arrow in his arm? My thesis at Exeter concerns …tag:theosophy.net,2011-09-30:3055387:Comment:812092011-09-30T13:00:46.190ZJeffrey D. Lavoiehttps://theosophy.net/profile/JeffreyDLavoie
<p>My thesis at Exeter concerns Blavatsky's philosophy of time throughout her writings. I was contacted by a member of the Russian TS and was explained that Blavatsky's view of time is an extremely important topic in the Russian TS. For a limited English version of this site click here <a href="http://www.resht.ru/eng/index.htm">http://www.resht.ru/eng/index.htm</a> I found the 'tables' simply fascinating...</p>
<p>My thesis at Exeter concerns Blavatsky's philosophy of time throughout her writings. I was contacted by a member of the Russian TS and was explained that Blavatsky's view of time is an extremely important topic in the Russian TS. For a limited English version of this site click here <a href="http://www.resht.ru/eng/index.htm">http://www.resht.ru/eng/index.htm</a> I found the 'tables' simply fascinating...</p> Also, one trick is to request…tag:theosophy.net,2011-09-28:3055387:Comment:810492011-09-28T00:52:23.530ZLori Tompkinshttps://theosophy.net/profile/360lotus
Also, one trick is to request your library to purchase it for you. Here's a link to the original publisher <a href="http://www.patrizianorellibachelet.com/Order.html" target="_blank">AeonBooks</a> ... at full price ($27 plus shipping & handling).
Also, one trick is to request your library to purchase it for you. Here's a link to the original publisher <a href="http://www.patrizianorellibachelet.com/Order.html" target="_blank">AeonBooks</a> ... at full price ($27 plus shipping & handling). Hi Jon, you should get a hold…tag:theosophy.net,2011-09-27:3055387:Comment:809432011-09-27T05:27:28.091ZLori Tompkinshttps://theosophy.net/profile/360lotus
<p>Hi Jon, you should get a hold of <i>The Gnostic Circle</i> if you can, it is a powerful initiation into these matters. It builds this knowledge more organically and thoroughly than I can manage here.</p>
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<p>Regarding the 3 and 1/3 Precessional Cycles ... well here's the thing about that:</p>
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<p>According to Ms. Norelli-Bachelet, the Kali Yuga functions as a Unit of Measure, like the integer ONE is a unit in the circle of Nine. If the Kali Yuga is understood as a unit, and…</p>
<p>Hi Jon, you should get a hold of <i>The Gnostic Circle</i> if you can, it is a powerful initiation into these matters. It builds this knowledge more organically and thoroughly than I can manage here.</p>
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<p>Regarding the 3 and 1/3 Precessional Cycles ... well here's the thing about that:</p>
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<p>According to Ms. Norelli-Bachelet, the Kali Yuga functions as a Unit of Measure, like the integer ONE is a unit in the circle of Nine. If the Kali Yuga is understood as a unit, and not an Age itself, then the Dwapara (2) + Treta (3) + Satya (4) Yugas = 9 Yugas = 3 Precessional Cycles (i.e. 77,760 Years or 36 Astrological Ages). When we remind ourselves of the numbers for Kali Yuga/Radius of the Sun <b>432</b>,000 ... and remember the function and potency of the circle/cycle of the 9/0 number system of Vedic origin, this understanding of the Yugas makes much sense.</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2962627337?profile=original"><img class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2962627337?profile=original" width="600"/></a></p>
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<p>Patrizia writes: 'In truth, mankind is in the 'dark' simply by not realising that there is no such thing as a Kaliyuga, and that in effect the Age of Darkness is only determined by an ignorance of Truth, which can come about in any Age. Man has believed himself to be in an age of darkness, which is only the illusion of Time, and consequently Time is illusion only in so far as vision is fragmentary. When one breaks through to a full vision of Truth, Time then is the key and saviour, not the bondage.’</p>
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<p>According to her, we have been in Satya Yuga since 0 degrees Leo of the previous Precession (some 10,800 years ago), and have 11 Ages in the 25,920 year Precessional Cycle ahead of us. If you look at the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.aeongroup.com/mani.htm" target="_blank">the Map of the 12 Manifestations</a>, look for the Age of Aquarius in the outer ring … that is where we fall. The ‘Manifestations’ in this map are 3-Age ‘Seasons’ or ¼ of the Precessional Year. It is interesting to think that perhaps the Sphinx of Giza was built in the Age of Leo as a marker for the Earth’s passage into Satya Yuga. Patrizia points out the fascinating coincidence that the Lion body of the Sphinx was not excavated/unburied from the sands of Giza until 1926, the beginning of the Age of Aquarius ... half a Precession, perhaps, from when it was built as a monument to the Leo-Aquarius (Lion-Man) axis of the Zodiac.</p>
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<p>In an even larger cycle, the 3 Precessional Cycles formed by the Dwapara, Treta and Satya Yuga (MahaYuga) form a Season of an even greater Year. Four of such seasons would be 311,040 years (77,760 x 4) or 12 Precessional Cycles (144 Astrological Ages). In THAT macro cycle. Ms. Norelli-Bachelet writes that we are 9 ‘months’ into the last Season (77,760 years) of this macro cycle, which corresponds to the 9<sup>th</sup> Astrological sign Sagittarius.</p>
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<p>This is a lot to take in, and I think it all REALLY needs to be read within the larger context of <i>The Gnostic Circle</i>. It is all laid out there with pictures and better explanations of the measures, geometries and forces at work. Also in <i><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.patrizianorellibachelet.com/SOE.html" target="_blank">Secrets of the Earth</a></i>, Patrizia discusses the way the Vedic lore of the 10 Avatars of Vishnu (the Preserver) plays out in the Manifestations, as incarnations in the astrological ages corresponding to the PRESERVATION or fixed signs of the zodiac. It is very intriguing and eye opening reading … making sense of these ancient myths and measures.</p> More related links from my bl…tag:theosophy.net,2011-09-24:3055387:Comment:809162011-09-24T17:33:33.980ZLori Tompkinshttps://theosophy.net/profile/360lotus
<p>More related links from my blog:<br></br> <a href="http://circumsolatious.blogspot.com/2010/12/yugas-precession-of-equinoxes.html">The Yugas & the Precession of the Equinoxes</a> <br></br> <a href="http://circumsolatious.blogspot.com/2011/03/234-and-432-basic-numbers-of-zodiac.html">234 and 432 - the Basic Numbers of the Zodiac, Radius of the Sun ...</a></p>
<div style="text-align: justify;"><a href="http://circumsolatious.blogspot.com/2009/09/geometry-and-superstructure-of-time.html">Geometry…</a></div>
<p>More related links from my blog:<br/> <a href="http://circumsolatious.blogspot.com/2010/12/yugas-precession-of-equinoxes.html">The Yugas & the Precession of the Equinoxes</a> <br/> <a href="http://circumsolatious.blogspot.com/2011/03/234-and-432-basic-numbers-of-zodiac.html">234 and 432 - the Basic Numbers of the Zodiac, Radius of the Sun ...</a></p>
<div style="text-align: justify;"><a href="http://circumsolatious.blogspot.com/2009/09/geometry-and-superstructure-of-time.html">Geometry and the Superstructure of Time</a><br/> <a href="http://circumsolatious.blogspot.com/2010/01/in-harmonys-way.html">In Harmony's Way</a><br/> <a href="http://circumsolatious.blogspot.com/2010/05/why-is-year-divided-into-12-months.html">Why Is the Year Divided into 12 Parts?</a></div>
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<div style="text-align: justify;">And here's a picture I just posted on my blog regarding the 3114 BCE - 234 BCE span of the Precessional Cycle:</div>
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><a target="_blank" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-s5ZVmUQrW3I/Tn4PHNWTCFI/AAAAAAAAAd4/LipKVTJ0JN8/s1600/3114BCE-234BCE.jpg"><img class="align-center" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-s5ZVmUQrW3I/Tn4PHNWTCFI/AAAAAAAAAd4/LipKVTJ0JN8/s1600/3114BCE-234BCE.jpg"/></a></div>
<p><a href="http://circumsolatious.blogspot.com/2011/03/234-and-432-basic-numbers-of-zodiac.html"></a></p> Your so welcome Anand, ... Ms…tag:theosophy.net,2011-09-24:3055387:Comment:808192011-09-24T05:48:49.014ZLori Tompkinshttps://theosophy.net/profile/360lotus
<p>Your so welcome Anand, ... Ms. Norelli-Bachelet really deserves the credit. I would have little to NO understanding or interest in these matters if not for her work. Reading <em>The Gnostic Circle</em> at the age of 31 was like entering into a whole new level of understanding of what KNOWLEDGE is (like entering into a true UNIVERSITY). From that point it became clear to me that true knowledge must have true power to Unify and Integrate and Harmonize the whole field, just like the true power…</p>
<p>Your so welcome Anand, ... Ms. Norelli-Bachelet really deserves the credit. I would have little to NO understanding or interest in these matters if not for her work. Reading <em>The Gnostic Circle</em> at the age of 31 was like entering into a whole new level of understanding of what KNOWLEDGE is (like entering into a true UNIVERSITY). From that point it became clear to me that true knowledge must have true power to Unify and Integrate and Harmonize the whole field, just like the true power of the Sun.</p>
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<p>I meant to mention to you Jon (and anyone interested in these issues), that Ms. Norelli-Bachelet sees the start of our current Precessional cycle (0 Degrees Aries) as 234 BCE. Meaning the Age of Pisces lasted from 234 BCE to 1926 CE, and the Age of Aquarius began in 1926 CE. Several ago I wondered what the significance of 3114 BCE was in terms of using 234 BCE as the Zero Point of the Precession (Because of the importance of 3114 BCE in the Mayan calendar). Well the span from 3114 BCE to 234 BCE equals 2,880 years. And amazingly it just so happens that 2,880 years is EXACTLY 1/9th (40 degrees) of the Precession of the Equinoxes. I find that to be quite amazing. In terms of seconds of degrees of arc, 1/9th of the Precession, or 40 degrees of the circle equals <strong>144,000"</strong>. This makes me wonder if the sacred significance of the number 144,000 as it shows up in the Vedas, the Bible, the Mayan Calendar and in various religious or spiritual traditions has been misunderstood, just as the measure of the Yugas has been misunderstood.</p>
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<p>As 1/9th of the circle 144,000" is equivalent to ONE integer of our 9 number system. Does this make sense? <br/><br/>Just as: 1 x 9 makes up the full circle of 9, and 40 degrees x 9 = a full 360 degree Circle .... 144,000" x 9 = 1,296,000" = the full measure of the 360 degree circle (the measure of 3 Yugas or Treta Yuga). Or in terms of years, 2,880 years x 9 = 25,920 years or the full measure of the Precession of the Equinoxes. For more information on the circle of 9/0, see <a href="http://circumsolatious.blogspot.com/2009/09/vedic-circle-of-9-and-0.html" target="_blank">'The Vedic Circle of 9 and 0'</a> and <a href="http://circumsolatious.blogspot.com/2010/02/circle-and-point-9-and-0.html" target="_blank">'The Circle and the Point'</a>.</p>
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<p>It seems to be an amazing 'coincidence' 3114 BCE - 234 BCE marks off ONE integer of the Precession of the Equinoxes, especially in light of the fact that the Mayans Ages seem to correspond to 1/5th of the Precession of the Equinoxes (5184 years). Perhaps the Mayans were aware of other divisions of the Circle/Precession. Or perhaps the coincidence has been organized 'Supramentally', i.e. not mentally, but played out in time via the consciousness-forces at work through out the whole journey, regardless of human ignorance. Who is to say, really, how this correspondence/precision regarding the measure of the Mayan Calendar, the Ages of the Zodiac and the beginning of the Great Year as measured from 234 BCE came to be ... but it certainly invites us to take notice of and contemplate the geometry of time.</p>
<p> </p> Thank You 360Lotus. Brilliant…tag:theosophy.net,2011-09-24:3055387:Comment:809102011-09-24T04:11:27.135ZCapt. Anand Kumarhttps://theosophy.net/profile/CaptAnandKumar
Thank You 360Lotus. Brilliant Work! In one post you have clarified what has confused our minds for long. This is what sharing and the Theosophical Network is all about.
Thank You 360Lotus. Brilliant Work! In one post you have clarified what has confused our minds for long. This is what sharing and the Theosophical Network is all about.