What we can understand about Lilith... - Theosophy.Net2024-03-29T11:25:56Zhttps://theosophy.net/forum/topics/what-we-can-understand-about-lilith?commentId=3055387%3AComment%3A108874&feed=yes&xn_auth=noFor a modern healthy perspect…tag:theosophy.net,2019-03-17:3055387:Comment:1615672019-03-17T00:04:59.385ZMark Kusekhttps://theosophy.net/profile/MarkKusek165
<p>For a modern healthy perspective on dakinis, check out the work of Lama Tsultrim Allione (<a href="http://www.taramandala.org" target="_blank">www.taramandala.org</a>) and the writing of Judith Simmer Brown (Dakini's Warm Breath). I can also reccommend the recently published (2018) "Dakini Activity" from Rangjung Yeshe Publicatons.</p>
<p>For a modern healthy perspective on dakinis, check out the work of Lama Tsultrim Allione (<a href="http://www.taramandala.org" target="_blank">www.taramandala.org</a>) and the writing of Judith Simmer Brown (Dakini's Warm Breath). I can also reccommend the recently published (2018) "Dakini Activity" from Rangjung Yeshe Publicatons.</p> Blavatsky's second descriptio…tag:theosophy.net,2012-02-26:3055387:Comment:1090672012-02-26T14:46:57.787ZBart Lidofskyhttps://theosophy.net/profile/BartLidofsky
<p>Blavatsky's second description is accurate about Jewish tradition, but the first is not.. In Jewish tradition, borrowed from the Sumerian, Lilith was a dybbuk (malicious elemental) who was responsible for SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, or "crib death"). The first mention of her as Adam's first wife appears In the satirical medieval book, The Alphabet of Ben Sira, the story of Lilith first appears as a story Ben Sira tells to Nebuchadnezzar to explain his healing methods when trying to…</p>
<p>Blavatsky's second description is accurate about Jewish tradition, but the first is not.. In Jewish tradition, borrowed from the Sumerian, Lilith was a dybbuk (malicious elemental) who was responsible for SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, or "crib death"). The first mention of her as Adam's first wife appears In the satirical medieval book, The Alphabet of Ben Sira, the story of Lilith first appears as a story Ben Sira tells to Nebuchadnezzar to explain his healing methods when trying to cure Nebuchadnezzar's son. This, at most, can be considered a "midrash", a fictional tale designed to fill in holes in the Bible and teach a lesson in the process. Although ignorant Jews have treated it as real, it is no more Jewish Tradition than Blavatsky's "Nightmare Tales" should be considered true stories.</p>
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<p>It is ironic that many women have treated Lilith as the avatar of women's rights. Maybe not as suprising; even as prominent a woman as Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has stated that she does not see a difference between killing a ready-to-be-born fetus in the womb, or taking it out of the womb alive and then killing it as "the law saves not a single fetus from destruction."</p> I really don't know. Maybe th…tag:theosophy.net,2012-02-26:3055387:Comment:1088832012-02-26T14:12:29.180ZLady Linehttps://theosophy.net/profile/LadyLine
I really don't know. Maybe that they are a kind of elementals. So they are neutral beings, not good and not evil, just like animals are.<br />
Well, I think that's it. ; )
I really don't know. Maybe that they are a kind of elementals. So they are neutral beings, not good and not evil, just like animals are.<br />
Well, I think that's it. ; ) I understand but what's a con…tag:theosophy.net,2012-02-26:3055387:Comment:1088812012-02-26T14:05:58.015ZLady Linehttps://theosophy.net/profile/LadyLine
I understand but what's a contradiction is that they have the greatest kindness to mortals, not because they have no mind.
I understand but what's a contradiction is that they have the greatest kindness to mortals, not because they have no mind. In the context of tantras suc…tag:theosophy.net,2012-02-26:3055387:Comment:1088742012-02-26T02:23:47.424Zornamentalmindhttps://theosophy.net/profile/BillFaust
<p><span>In the context of tantras such as the Guhyasamaja, I agree with Ferran… unless perhaps if one uses the notion of ‘manipulate’ as an aspect of the clarification process involved with poisons…a stretch of the use of language.</span></p>
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<p><span>Continuing with the style of questioning that Lady Lilith used, I’ll ask if ‘poisons’ are an aspect of mind? I ask this based on the quotation she presented from the Secret Doctrine. Personally, I question interpreting “no…</span></p>
<p><span>In the context of tantras such as the Guhyasamaja, I agree with Ferran… unless perhaps if one uses the notion of ‘manipulate’ as an aspect of the clarification process involved with poisons…a stretch of the use of language.</span></p>
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<p><span>Continuing with the style of questioning that Lady Lilith used, I’ll ask if ‘poisons’ are an aspect of mind? I ask this based on the quotation she presented from the Secret Doctrine. Personally, I question interpreting “no mind – only animal instinct.” as being in any way contradictory with the rest of her presentation. Of course, conflating different cultural concepts and language can be fraught with difficulty.</span></p> I dare say that anyone who i…tag:theosophy.net,2012-02-25:3055387:Comment:1088712012-02-25T14:13:35.831ZFerran Sanz Orriolshttps://theosophy.net/profile/FerranSanzOrriols
<p> I dare say that anyone who is prepared to practice the higher tantras has long ago learnt not to manipulate.... ;-)</p>
<p> I dare say that anyone who is prepared to practice the higher tantras has long ago learnt not to manipulate.... ;-)</p>