What about Helena Roerich? - Theosophy.Net2024-03-29T01:40:46Zhttps://theosophy.net/forum/topics/what-about-helena-roerich?commentId=3055387%3AComment%3A33301&feed=yes&xn_auth=noExcellent point, James. Thank…tag:theosophy.net,2011-08-17:3055387:Comment:748532011-08-17T04:51:52.672ZMichael A. Williamshttps://theosophy.net/profile/MichaelAWilliams
<p>Excellent point, James. Thanks for bringing this out.</p>
<p>I've often felt that the acrimony and many of the disagreements of the various metaphysical/spiritual schools of thought, East and West, could be eliminated if all sides accepted that all information/insights, etc., coming from the higher realms and higher consciousness is a stepdown, usually several times, plus, as you pointed out, it goes through the personality of the receiver and the culture of the time…</p>
<p>Excellent point, James. Thanks for bringing this out.</p>
<p>I've often felt that the acrimony and many of the disagreements of the various metaphysical/spiritual schools of thought, East and West, could be eliminated if all sides accepted that all information/insights, etc., coming from the higher realms and higher consciousness is a stepdown, usually several times, plus, as you pointed out, it goes through the personality of the receiver and the culture of the time involved.</p>
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<p>There will never be full agreement of everything, but it can be understood by all that the highest understandings and direct experiences of higher realms will come out expressed in language with seeming paradoxes and contradictions to the logical mind.</p> Thanks to all who have expre…tag:theosophy.net,2011-02-18:3055387:Comment:394422011-02-18T20:25:18.447ZFerran Sanz Orriolshttps://theosophy.net/profile/FerranSanzOrriols
<p> Thanks to all who have expressed their opinions! I'm sorry, but due to circumstances beyond my control I cannot spend as much time as I wish on this nice website.</p>
<p> Dear Vitaly, I am crazy... but I take the School of Living Ethics seriously.</p>
<p> Blessings from the Heart to everyone!!! </p>
<p> Thanks to all who have expressed their opinions! I'm sorry, but due to circumstances beyond my control I cannot spend as much time as I wish on this nice website.</p>
<p> Dear Vitaly, I am crazy... but I take the School of Living Ethics seriously.</p>
<p> Blessings from the Heart to everyone!!! </p> hi to everyone!
I am looking…tag:theosophy.net,2011-02-18:3055387:Comment:395212011-02-18T12:56:33.085ZVitalyhttps://theosophy.net/profile/Vitaly
<p>hi to everyone!</p>
<p>I am looking for a serious person with whom it will be possible to discuss Agni Yoga and Theosophy books. Who read Agni Yoga would indicate oneness. Agni Yoga stays that it is the progressive theosophy.</p>
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<p>The disciple of theosophy should search for clues for personal implementations of the theosophy and not spend too much time on investigating abstract theories.</p>
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<p>Time is passing and we can make ourself Arhats or....just theosophy…</p>
<p>hi to everyone!</p>
<p>I am looking for a serious person with whom it will be possible to discuss Agni Yoga and Theosophy books. Who read Agni Yoga would indicate oneness. Agni Yoga stays that it is the progressive theosophy.</p>
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<p>The disciple of theosophy should search for clues for personal implementations of the theosophy and not spend too much time on investigating abstract theories.</p>
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<p>Time is passing and we can make ourself Arhats or....just theosophy scientists.</p>
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<p>I am on skype -</p>
<p>yoga_consciousness</p>
Having read a few of the…tag:theosophy.net,2011-01-26:3055387:Comment:376162011-01-26T21:11:22.615ZDaniel Nogahttps://theosophy.net/profile/DanielNoga
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<p>Having read a few of the Agni Yoga books, I can't say it seems to me that they come from M or K.H. But then again, I never met either of them--so who knows?</p>
<p>I think one needs to be careful with all channeled materials and take them totally at face value. For one, spending too much time analyzing the supposed source can cause one to miss whatever wisdom might be contained in the work. It may be instructive to ask oneself why it matters whether or not Morya was the one…</p>
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<p>Having read a few of the Agni Yoga books, I can't say it seems to me that they come from M or K.H. But then again, I never met either of them--so who knows?</p>
<p>I think one needs to be careful with all channeled materials and take them totally at face value. For one, spending too much time analyzing the supposed source can cause one to miss whatever wisdom might be contained in the work. It may be instructive to ask oneself why it matters whether or not Morya was the one Helena Roerich was channeling--if she was channeling anyone at all.</p>
<p>In my experience, the Agni Yoga books have many pearls of deep wisdom that I've found useful, and they also contain a lot of prose that makes no sense to me whatsoever.</p>
<p>As I first started reading The Call, the question of its "authenticity" hovered on my mind. By the time I started Leaves II, I had decided that it is totally possible that Helena Roerich wasn't channeling anyone or anything other than her own unconscious mind, but that the wise bits were nevertheless wise. Then again, she may actually have been channeling M...but that doesn't render the nonsenical bits any more valuable to me.</p>
<p>What's in a name?</p>
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<p> </p> If we take the Agni Yoga book…tag:theosophy.net,2011-01-24:3055387:Comment:374812011-01-24T22:09:23.439ZMaxhttps://theosophy.net/profile/Max
<p>If we take the Agni Yoga books and Helena Roerich's statements in her letters at face value (which is not necessarily a good idea), the theory that The Call has been given by Maitreya is incorrect. First off, that book's original and alternate title is Leaves of Morya's Garden I (please refer to a list of AY volumes on the AY Society home page, <a href="http://www.agniyoga.org">http://www.agniyoga.org</a> ). Second, Helena Roerich's notebooks (available at …</p>
<p>If we take the Agni Yoga books and Helena Roerich's statements in her letters at face value (which is not necessarily a good idea), the theory that The Call has been given by Maitreya is incorrect. First off, that book's original and alternate title is Leaves of Morya's Garden I (please refer to a list of AY volumes on the AY Society home page, <a href="http://www.agniyoga.org">http://www.agniyoga.org</a> ). Second, Helena Roerich's notebooks (available at <a href="http://urusvati.agni-age.net">http://urusvati.agni-age.net</a> , mostly in the Russian) from which material for The Call and other AY volumes has been excerpted, show that the source first identified himself as Allal Ming (or Allal Ming Shri Ishwara) and then as Morya (or simply M.).</p>
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<p>On the other hand, all AY books carry a Sanskrit logo on the cover and on the title page that reads: "Maitreya Sangha."</p>
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<p>Max</p>
<p><br/><br/><cite>Ferran Sanz Orriols said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div>Thanks for your nice replies!!!<br/>Thanks for the link, Dominique. As far as I know "The Call" was given by Maitreya, and the bulk of the other books comes from Morya. I don't know anything for sure about KH's contribution.<br/>Agni Yoga books have the power of wakin' me up when I feel depressed and I think that are really useful for the serious disciple. The only thing I know about the Agni Yoga society is that they posted the books online, making them available to anyone interested.</div>
</blockquote> I think it is impossible to v…tag:theosophy.net,2010-12-21:3055387:Comment:353202010-12-21T14:31:31.808ZPatrique Dordevichttps://theosophy.net/profile/mahatmawatcher
<p>I think it is impossible to visit shamballa in the lower physical since its lowest manifestation is on the etherical plane - for instance.</p>
<p>I think it is impossible to visit shamballa in the lower physical since its lowest manifestation is on the etherical plane - for instance.</p> Helena Roerich translate the…tag:theosophy.net,2010-12-18:3055387:Comment:350622010-12-18T19:23:00.557ZJuanhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JuanGuillermoVieira
<p>Helena Roerich translate the Secret Doctrine to Russian.</p>
<p>Helena Roerich translate the Secret Doctrine to Russian.</p> Hi, Patrique!!!
Sorry to sa…tag:theosophy.net,2010-12-17:3055387:Comment:349962010-12-17T14:13:41.495ZFerran Sanz Orriolshttps://theosophy.net/profile/FerranSanzOrriols
<p> Hi, Patrique!!!</p>
<p> Sorry to say that Ferran is not OK at all... difficult times in many senses.. that's life!!! :-)</p>
<p> It's a pity that his web does not allow betting on the authenticity of teachings, you'd loose a lot of cash!!! :-P (and I will not write "sorry", he, he :) </p>
<p> Hi, Patrique!!!</p>
<p> Sorry to say that Ferran is not OK at all... difficult times in many senses.. that's life!!! :-)</p>
<p> It's a pity that his web does not allow betting on the authenticity of teachings, you'd loose a lot of cash!!! :-P (and I will not write "sorry", he, he :) </p> Hi Ferran!
How are you?
I…tag:theosophy.net,2010-12-17:3055387:Comment:349722010-12-17T05:18:48.310ZPatrique Dordevichttps://theosophy.net/profile/mahatmawatcher
<p>Hi Ferran!</p>
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<p>How are you?</p>
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<p>I know you'd probably "hate" to hear this from me, because of similar differences in the past. But Roerich is sort of fake. Her Agni Yoga is misinterpretation. =)</p>
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<p>Sorry</p>
<p>Hi Ferran!</p>
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<p>How are you?</p>
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<p>I know you'd probably "hate" to hear this from me, because of similar differences in the past. But Roerich is sort of fake. Her Agni Yoga is misinterpretation. =)</p>
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<p>Sorry</p> The Roerichs were formidable…tag:theosophy.net,2010-11-11:3055387:Comment:333582010-11-11T13:09:03.518ZAndrew W. Smithhttps://theosophy.net/profile/AndrewWSmith
The Roerichs were formidable people in the world of philosophy, and I might say, Theosophy. Looking them up on WikiPedia was richly rewarding. I included a picture of their statue in Moscow for the info of readers. I'll have to study Helena's works further. Thank you!
The Roerichs were formidable people in the world of philosophy, and I might say, Theosophy. Looking them up on WikiPedia was richly rewarding. I included a picture of their statue in Moscow for the info of readers. I'll have to study Helena's works further. Thank you!