Lucifer : The Greatly Misunderstood - Theosophy.Net2024-03-29T09:19:58Zhttps://theosophy.net/forum/topics/lucifer-the-greatly-misunderstood?commentId=3055387%3AComment%3A191233&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=no"The Fall was the result of m…tag:theosophy.net,2022-05-20:3055387:Comment:1910562022-05-20T20:10:55.249ZThabohttps://theosophy.net/profile/Thabo
<p>"The Fall was the result of man’s knowledge, for his “ eyes were opened.” Indeed, he was taught Wisdom and the hidden knowledge by the “ Fallen Angel,” for the latter had become from that day his Manas, Mind and Self-consciousness"</p>
<p>"The Fall was the result of man’s knowledge, for his “ eyes were opened.” Indeed, he was taught Wisdom and the hidden knowledge by the “ Fallen Angel,” for the latter had become from that day his Manas, Mind and Self-consciousness"</p> "it is but natural—even from…tag:theosophy.net,2022-05-20:3055387:Comment:1911562022-05-20T20:06:22.072ZThabohttps://theosophy.net/profile/Thabo
<p>"it is but natural—even from the dead letter standpoint—to view Satan, the Serpent of Genesis, as the real creator and benefactor, the Father of Spiritual mankind. For it is he who was the “ Harbinger of Light,” bright radiant Lucifer, who opened the eyes of the automaton created by Jehovah, as alleged ; and he who was the first to whisper : “ in the day ye eat thereof ye shall be as Elohim, knowing good and evil ”—can only be regarded in the light of a Saviour. An “ adversary ” to Jehovah…</p>
<p>"it is but natural—even from the dead letter standpoint—to view Satan, the Serpent of Genesis, as the real creator and benefactor, the Father of Spiritual mankind. For it is he who was the “ Harbinger of Light,” bright radiant Lucifer, who opened the eyes of the automaton created by Jehovah, as alleged ; and he who was the first to whisper : “ in the day ye eat thereof ye shall be as Elohim, knowing good and evil ”—can only be regarded in the light of a Saviour. An “ adversary ” to Jehovah the “ personating spirit,” he still remains in <br/>esoteric truth the ever-loving “ Messenger ” (the angel), the Seraphim and Cherubim who both knew well, and loved still more, and who conferred on us spiritual, instead of physical immortality—the latter a kind <br/>of static immortality that would have transformed man into an undying “ Wandering Jew.”"</p> "The allegory of the fire of…tag:theosophy.net,2022-05-20:3055387:Comment:1910542022-05-20T20:03:26.573ZThabohttps://theosophy.net/profile/Thabo
<p>"The allegory of the fire of Prometheus is another version of the rebellion of the proud Lucifer, who was hurled down to the bottomless pit, or simply unto our Earth, to live as man"</p>
<p>"The allegory of the fire of Prometheus is another version of the rebellion of the proud Lucifer, who was hurled down to the bottomless pit, or simply unto our Earth, to live as man"</p> "Here, by the seven great Ris…tag:theosophy.net,2022-05-20:3055387:Comment:1910062022-05-20T19:53:49.425ZThabohttps://theosophy.net/profile/Thabo
<p>"Here, by the seven great Rishis, the seven great rupa hierarchies or classes of Dhyan Chohans, are meant. Let us bear in mind that the Saptarshi (the seven Rishis) are the regents of the seven stars of the Great Bear, therefore, of the same nature as the angels of the planets, or the seven great Planetary Spirits. They were all reborn, all men on earth in various Kalpas and races. Moreover, “ the four preceding Manus ” <br></br>are the four classes of the originally arupa gods—the Kumâras, the…</p>
<p>"Here, by the seven great Rishis, the seven great rupa hierarchies or classes of Dhyan Chohans, are meant. Let us bear in mind that the Saptarshi (the seven Rishis) are the regents of the seven stars of the Great Bear, therefore, of the same nature as the angels of the planets, or the seven great Planetary Spirits. They were all reborn, all men on earth in various Kalpas and races. Moreover, “ the four preceding Manus ” <br/>are the four classes of the originally arupa gods—the Kumâras, the Rudras, the Asuras, etc. : who are also said to have incarnated. They are not the Prajâpatis, as the first are, but their informing principles—some of which have incarnated in men, while others have made other men simply the vehicles of their reflections"</p> "Therefore, the FLAMES, whose…tag:theosophy.net,2022-05-20:3055387:Comment:1910042022-05-20T19:52:05.163ZThabohttps://theosophy.net/profile/Thabo
<p>"Therefore, the FLAMES, whose functions are confused in the exoteric books, and who are called indifferently Prajâpati, Pitris, Manus, Asuras, Rishis, Kumâras,* etc. etc., are said to incarnate personally in the Third Root-Race and thus find themselves “ reborn over and over again.” In the Esoteric doctrine they are generally named the Asuras, or the Asu-ra Devata or Pitar-devata (gods) for, as said, they were first Gods—and the highest—before they became “ no-gods,” and had from Spirits of…</p>
<p>"Therefore, the FLAMES, whose functions are confused in the exoteric books, and who are called indifferently Prajâpati, Pitris, Manus, Asuras, Rishis, Kumâras,* etc. etc., are said to incarnate personally in the Third Root-Race and thus find themselves “ reborn over and over again.” In the Esoteric doctrine they are generally named the Asuras, or the Asu-ra Devata or Pitar-devata (gods) for, as said, they were first Gods—and the highest—before they became “ no-gods,” and had from Spirits of Heaven fallen into Spirits of the Earth †—exoterically, note well, in orthodox dogma"</p> "To close this rather lengthy…tag:theosophy.net,2022-05-20:3055387:Comment:1910522022-05-20T19:50:40.016ZThabohttps://theosophy.net/profile/Thabo
<p>"To close this rather lengthy comment, the Secret Doctrine teaches that the Fire-Devas, the Rudras, and the Kumâras, the “ Virgin-Angels,” (to whom Michael and Gabriel, the Archangels, both belong), the divine <br></br>“ Rebels ”—called by the all-materializing and positive Jews, the Nahash or “ Deprived ”—preferred the curse of incarnation and the long cycles of terrestrial existence and rebirths, to seeing the misery (even if unconscious) of the beings (evolved as shadows out of their…</p>
<p>"To close this rather lengthy comment, the Secret Doctrine teaches that the Fire-Devas, the Rudras, and the Kumâras, the “ Virgin-Angels,” (to whom Michael and Gabriel, the Archangels, both belong), the divine <br/>“ Rebels ”—called by the all-materializing and positive Jews, the Nahash or “ Deprived ”—preferred the curse of incarnation and the long cycles of terrestrial existence and rebirths, to seeing the misery (even if unconscious) of the beings (evolved as shadows out of their Brethren) through the semi - passive energy of their too spiritual Creators. "</p> a quote in stanza X
"Thus th…tag:theosophy.net,2022-05-20:3055387:Comment:1912392022-05-20T19:49:05.621ZThabohttps://theosophy.net/profile/Thabo
<p>a quote in stanza X</p>
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<p>"Thus the “ Self-created ” and the “ Self-existent ” projected their pale shadows ; but group the Third, the Fire-Angels, rebelled and refused to join their Fellow Devas. Hindu exotericism represents them all as Yogins, whose piety inspired them to refuse creating, as they desired to remain eternally Kumâras, “ Virgin Youths,” in order to, if possible, anticipate their fellows in progress towards Nirvana—the final liberation. But, agreeably to esoteric…</p>
<p>a quote in stanza X</p>
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<p>"Thus the “ Self-created ” and the “ Self-existent ” projected their pale shadows ; but group the Third, the Fire-Angels, rebelled and refused to join their Fellow Devas. Hindu exotericism represents them all as Yogins, whose piety inspired them to refuse creating, as they desired to remain eternally Kumâras, “ Virgin Youths,” in order to, if possible, anticipate their fellows in progress towards Nirvana—the final liberation. But, agreeably to esoteric interpretation, it was a self-sacrifice for the benefit of mankind. The “ Rebels ” would not create will-less irresponsible men, as the “ obedient ” angels did ; nor could they endow human beings <br/>with only the temporary reflections of their own attributes ;"</p> another quote in stanza VII…tag:theosophy.net,2022-05-20:3055387:Comment:1911542022-05-20T19:43:42.471ZThabohttps://theosophy.net/profile/Thabo
<p>another quote in stanza VII</p>
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<p>"27. (Then) the Third (race) became the vahan (vehicle) of the Lords of Wisdom. It created Sons of “ Will and Yoga,” by Kriyasakti (b), it created them, the Holy Fathers, Ancestors of the Arhats. . . .</p>
<p><br></br>(a) How did they create, since the “ Lords of Wisdom ” are identical with the Hindu Devas, who refuse “ to create ” ? Clearly they are the Kumâras of the Hindu Pantheon and Purânas, those elder sons of Brahmâ, “ Sanandana and the other…</p>
<p>another quote in stanza VII</p>
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<p>"27. (Then) the Third (race) became the vahan (vehicle) of the Lords of Wisdom. It created Sons of “ Will and Yoga,” by Kriyasakti (b), it created them, the Holy Fathers, Ancestors of the Arhats. . . .</p>
<p><br/>(a) How did they create, since the “ Lords of Wisdom ” are identical with the Hindu Devas, who refuse “ to create ” ? Clearly they are the Kumâras of the Hindu Pantheon and Purânas, those elder sons of Brahmâ, “ Sanandana and the other sons of Vedhas,” who, previously created by him “ without desire or passion, remained chaste, full of holy wisdom and undesirous of progeny ?"</p> under stanza VII there's a qu…tag:theosophy.net,2022-05-20:3055387:Comment:1911522022-05-20T19:40:42.351ZThabohttps://theosophy.net/profile/Thabo
<p>under stanza VII there's a quote</p>
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<p>"2. From the First (race) emanated the second, called the “ Sweat-born ”‡ and the “ Boneless.” This is the Second Root-Race, endowed by the preservers (Râkshasas)* and the incarnating gods (Asuras and the Kumâras) with the first primitive and weak spark (the germ of intelligence) . . And from these <br></br>in turn proceeds :—</p>
<p><br></br>3. The Third Root-Race, the “ Two-fold ” (Androgynes). The first Races hereof are shells, till the last is “…</p>
<p>under stanza VII there's a quote</p>
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<p>"2. From the First (race) emanated the second, called the “ Sweat-born ”‡ and the “ Boneless.” This is the Second Root-Race, endowed by the preservers (Râkshasas)* and the incarnating gods (Asuras and the Kumâras) with the first primitive and weak spark (the germ of intelligence) . . And from these <br/>in turn proceeds :—</p>
<p><br/>3. The Third Root-Race, the “ Two-fold ” (Androgynes). The first Races hereof are shells, till the last is “ inhabited ” (i.e., informed) by the Dhyanis."</p> under stanza IV there's anoth…tag:theosophy.net,2022-05-20:3055387:Comment:1910022022-05-20T19:35:23.599ZThabohttps://theosophy.net/profile/Thabo
<p>under stanza IV there's another quote </p>
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<p>"The Endowers of man with his conscious, immortal ego, are the “ Solar Angels ”—whether so regarded metaphorically or literally. The mysteries of the Conscious ego or human Soul are great. The<br></br>esoteric name of these “ Solar Angels ” is, literally, the “ Lords ” (Nath) of “ persevering ceaseless devotion ” (pranidhâna). Therefore they of the fifth principle (Manas) seem to be connected with, or to have originated the system of the…</p>
<p>under stanza IV there's another quote </p>
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<p>"The Endowers of man with his conscious, immortal ego, are the “ Solar Angels ”—whether so regarded metaphorically or literally. The mysteries of the Conscious ego or human Soul are great. The<br/>esoteric name of these “ Solar Angels ” is, literally, the “ Lords ” (Nath) of “ persevering ceaseless devotion ” (pranidhâna). Therefore they of the fifth principle (Manas) seem to be connected with, or to have originated the system of the Yogis who make of pranidhâna their fifth observance (see Yoga Shastra, II., 32.) It has already been explained why the trans-Himalayan Occultists regard them as evidently identical with those who in India are termed Kumâras, Agnishwattas, and the Barhishads."</p>