ADVAITA - Theosophy.Net2024-03-28T12:30:53Zhttps://theosophy.net/forum/topics/advaita-1?commentId=3055387%3AComment%3A4680&feed=yes&xn_auth=noDear friends
My views are:…tag:theosophy.net,2009-04-11:3055387:Comment:46802009-04-11T12:15:01.565ZM. Sufilighthttps://theosophy.net/profile/MSufilight
Dear friends<br />
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My views are:<br />
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I just came across this one by Tukaram Tatyas book: "A compendium of the raja yoga philosophy : comprising the principal treatises of Shrimat Sankaracharya and other reknowned authors (1888)" ( Is online here: <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/compendiumofraja00bombiala">http://www.archive.org/details/compendiumofraja00bombiala</a> )<br />
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When readin the fascimile-version one will find, that theosophical teachings are very much entangled with the metaphysics of…
Dear friends<br />
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My views are:<br />
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I just came across this one by Tukaram Tatyas book: "A compendium of the raja yoga philosophy : comprising the principal treatises of Shrimat Sankaracharya and other reknowned authors (1888)" ( Is online here: <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/compendiumofraja00bombiala">http://www.archive.org/details/compendiumofraja00bombiala</a> )<br />
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When readin the fascimile-version one will find, that theosophical teachings are very much entangled with the metaphysics of the Advaita Vedanta and the doctrine of Atma=Brahman. And not to mistake a robe to be a snake, or the opposite. :-)<br />
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HPB wrote about him in her "WHY I DO NOT RETURN TO INDIA":<br />
"Had it not been for Theosophy, would India have had her Tukaram Tatya doing now the priceless work he does, and which no one in India ever thought of doing before him? Without the Theosophical Society, would India have ever thought of wrenching from the hands of learned but unspiritual Orientalists the duty of reviving, translating and editing the Sacred Books of the East, of popularizing and selling them at a far cheaper rate, and at the same time in a far more correct form than had ever been done at Oxford? Would our respected and devoted brother Tukaram Tatya himself have ever thought of doing so, had he not joined the Theosophical Society? Would your political Congress itself have ever been a possibility, without the Theosophical Society? Most important of all, one at least among you has fully benefited by it; and if the Society had never given to India but that one future Adept (Dâmodar) who has now the prospect of becoming one day a Mahâtma, Kali Yuga notwithstanding, that alone would be proof that it was not founded at New York and transplanted to India in vain. " ( <a title="Atma=Brahman" href="http://www.katinkahesselink.net/blavatsky/articles/v12/y1890_015.htm">BCW, vol. 12, p. 159</a>)<br />
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M. Sufilight Thanks Nicholas.
This looks…tag:theosophy.net,2009-04-08:3055387:Comment:42042009-04-08T16:14:46.027ZM. Sufilighthttps://theosophy.net/profile/MSufilight
Thanks Nicholas.<br />
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This looks like a more credible source.<br />
I agree, that the version Trevor Leggett based his book on contains too many strange formulations not fitting for such a work by Shankara. But that was the one which I read.<br />
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Yet. Slowly we witness, that more and more rare and even important work appears.<br />
And that is interesting.<br />
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M. Sufilight
Thanks Nicholas.<br />
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This looks like a more credible source.<br />
I agree, that the version Trevor Leggett based his book on contains too many strange formulations not fitting for such a work by Shankara. But that was the one which I read.<br />
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Yet. Slowly we witness, that more and more rare and even important work appears.<br />
And that is interesting.<br />
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M. Sufilight Hello- One of the main things…tag:theosophy.net,2009-04-08:3055387:Comment:41052009-04-08T00:55:46.554ZDavid Wrighthttps://theosophy.net/profile/DavidWright
Hello- One of the main things that I first noticed about the relationship between Theosophy and the Adwaita Doctrine upon first beginning the correspondence course in 1993 via TUP is simply Oneness.
Hello- One of the main things that I first noticed about the relationship between Theosophy and the Adwaita Doctrine upon first beginning the correspondence course in 1993 via TUP is simply Oneness. See David Reigle: http://www.…tag:theosophy.net,2009-04-06:3055387:Comment:38742009-04-06T18:05:39.443ZJon Knebelhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JonKnebel
See David Reigle: <a href="http://www.easterntradition.org/original%20sankaracarya.pdf">http://www.easterntradition.org/original%20sankaracarya.pdf</a>
See David Reigle: <a href="http://www.easterntradition.org/original%20sankaracarya.pdf">http://www.easterntradition.org/original%20sankaracarya.pdf</a> Dear Nicholas and friends
In…tag:theosophy.net,2009-04-06:3055387:Comment:38702009-04-06T17:52:44.577ZM. Sufilighthttps://theosophy.net/profile/MSufilight
Dear Nicholas and friends<br />
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Interesting.<br />
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Are you able to document that view?<br />
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M. Sufilight
Dear Nicholas and friends<br />
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Interesting.<br />
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Are you able to document that view?<br />
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M. Sufilight Dear friends
My views are:…tag:theosophy.net,2009-03-31:3055387:Comment:25182009-03-31T19:48:03.415ZM. Sufilighthttps://theosophy.net/profile/MSufilight
Dear friends<br />
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My views are:<br />
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<u>H. P: Blavatsky wrote in The Secret Doctrine, p. 271-272</u>:<br />
"Sri Sankaracharya, the greatest Initiate living in the historical ages, wrote many a Bhâshya on the Upanishads. But his original treatises, as there are reasons to suppose, have not yet fallen into the hands of the Philistines, for they are too jealously preserved in his maths (monasteries, mathams). And there are still weightier reasons to believe that the priceless Bhâshyas (Commentaries) on the…
Dear friends<br />
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My views are:<br />
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<u>H. P: Blavatsky wrote in The Secret Doctrine, p. 271-272</u>:<br />
"Sri Sankaracharya, the greatest Initiate living in the historical ages, wrote many a Bhâshya on the Upanishads. But his original treatises, as there are reasons to suppose, have not yet fallen into the hands of the Philistines, for they are too jealously preserved in his maths (monasteries, mathams). And there are still weightier reasons to believe that the priceless Bhâshyas (Commentaries) on the esoteric doctrine of the Brahmins, by their greatest expounder, will remain for ages yet a dead letter to most of the Hindus, except the Smârtava Brahmins. This sect, founded by Sankaracharya, (which is still very powerful in Southern India) is now almost the only one to produce students who have preserved sufficient knowledge to comprehend the dead letter of the Bhashyas. The reason of this is that they alone, I am informed, have occasionally real Initiates at their head in their mathams, as for instance, in the "Sringa-giri," in the Western Ghats of Mysore. On the other hand, there is no sect in that desperately exclusive caste of the Brahmins, more exclusive than is the Smârtava; and the reticence of its followers to say what they may know of the Occult sciences and the esoteric doctrine, is only equalled by their pride and learning."<br />
<a href="http://www.phx-ult-lodge.org/SDVolume_I.htm">http://www.phx-ult-lodge.org/SDVolume_I.htm</a><br />
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Try also...<br />
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<u>"WHAT SHALL WE DO FOR OUR FELLOW MEN?" by H. P. Blavatsky, 1889</u>:<br />
"And just the same with Vedanta. It prohibits any attachment to worldly views and interests, or enquiries after cosmology or evolution a fortiori socialism and any other world-improvement. All this Vedanta calls Ajñâna (Buddhism: Avidya), while Jñâna or wisdom—the only aim of a sage (Jñâni)—is but the striving for the realization of the eternal (true reality, Atma) (a).<br />
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Answer (a). It depends on what you call Vedanta— whether the Dwaita, or the Viśishtadwaita. That we differ from all these, is no news, and I have spoken of it repeatedly. Yet in the esotericism of the Upanishads, when correctly understood, and our esotericism, there will not be found much difference. Nor have I ever disputed any of the facts about Buddha as now brought forward; although these are facts from only his exoteric biography. Nor has he invented or drawn from his inner consciousness the philosophy he taught, but only the method of his rendering it. Buddhism being simply esoteric Bodhism taught before him secretly in the arcana of the Brahminical temples, contains, of course, more than one doctrine of which the Lord Buddha never spoke in public."<br />
<a href="http://www.katinkahesselink.net/blavatsky/articles/v11/y1889_065.htm">http://www.katinkahesselink.net/blavatsky/articles/v11/y1889_065.htm</a><br />
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So, according to HPB, we now know, that the original treatises by Sri Sankaracharya, as there are reasons to suppose, have not yet fallen into the hands of the Philistines, for they are too jealously preserved in his maths (monasteries, mathams).<br />
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Yet, In 1952 a ancient manuscript was released to the public.<br />
I was named: Yogasutrabhasyavivarana of Sankara.<br />
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"Many who are interested in the Vivarana may be thankful that this work includes the Sanskrit text of the Vivarana. The first edition of the Vivarana published in 1952 (P. S. Rama Sastri and S. R. Krishnamurthi Sastri, Patanjala-yogasutra-bhasya-vivaranam of Sankara-bhagavatpada [Madras: Government Oriental Manuscripts Library, 1952]) has been rare and unavailable for quite some time, despite the interest in it. This publication makes the text more easily accessible. The texts presented here, not only of the Vivarana but also of the YS and the YBh, are rather faithful reproductions of the 1952 edition (p. ix). Some readers may be disappointed to learn this if they anticipated a critical edition of the Vivarana. It has been a while since Wezler ("Philological Observations in the So-called Patanjalayogasutrabhasyavivarana [Studies in the Patanjalayogasastravivarana I]," Indo-Iranian Journal 25 [1983]: 17-40) reported the existence of manuscripts that were not used by the editors of the editio princeps, pointed out textual problems of the editio princeps, and suggested the possibility of a new improved edition." <a href="http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-4127626/Yogasutrabhasyavivarana-of-Sankara-Vivarana-Text.html">Yogasutrabhasyavivarana of Sankara</a><br />
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In the english translation by Trevior, which I read, Shankara hardly disagress with Patanjalis teachings when compared to his own. Here is a link with more info about other editions of the work: <a href="http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-4127626/Yogasutrabhasyavivarana-of-Sankara-Vivarana-Text.html">Yogasutrabhasyavivarana of Sankara</a><br />
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M. Sufilight Read the first fundamental pr…tag:theosophy.net,2009-03-31:3055387:Comment:23252009-03-31T13:54:37.260ZJuanhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JuanGuillermoVieira
Read the first fundamental proposition of The Secret Doctrine and start to answer your question.<br />
From another point of view, THEOSOPHY is the Core Source of all philosophies, religions etc<br />
From another read The Collected Writings and search, for example, for quotations of Sankara.<br />
From another Search the writings of T. Subba Row, whom Blavatsky respected too much.<br />
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Good Day..
Read the first fundamental proposition of The Secret Doctrine and start to answer your question.<br />
From another point of view, THEOSOPHY is the Core Source of all philosophies, religions etc<br />
From another read The Collected Writings and search, for example, for quotations of Sankara.<br />
From another Search the writings of T. Subba Row, whom Blavatsky respected too much.<br />
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Good Day.. Ok my only doubt was wen I ap…tag:theosophy.net,2009-03-30:3055387:Comment:19512009-03-30T10:16:27.282Zaugusto picernihttps://theosophy.net/profile/augustopicerni
Ok my only doubt was wen I approach the books of Nisargadatta and Ramana M.in fact my last trip to India this janaury I was in the S.S. Sai Baba ashram were more than 10 hears ago I discovered the Theosopy teaching and became my only road to undestand me and the inner self and more...the Vedanta ,this extraordinary view is a deep revelation at this moment for me .The meditation as change,the perception of everyday life is now different....but at one point I thought, all the explenation of the…
Ok my only doubt was wen I approach the books of Nisargadatta and Ramana M.in fact my last trip to India this janaury I was in the S.S. Sai Baba ashram were more than 10 hears ago I discovered the Theosopy teaching and became my only road to undestand me and the inner self and more...the Vedanta ,this extraordinary view is a deep revelation at this moment for me .The meditation as change,the perception of everyday life is now different....but at one point I thought, all the explenation of the T. the different plane,the chakra,permant atom ,devachan and more the we all study for the Advaita Vedanta is just an illusion of the person,the puppet that identify itself whith the body the emotion(the astral body) end the mind and also the reserch of the path end the actor is just an illusion because we are alredy God even the strain that we do to reach somthing is just the ego that is pleasing inself...and this is very close to Krishnamurti 'teaching' also.than yesterday I was at the park whith my dog and I remenber that I read in a blavatky S.D.that in this long evolution at one point the atma will reach the ultimet state and all the plale will be seen as illusion ...I m really sorry my english is very bad to wright this took me long time hahahahh if you whant to replay try to be simple for me!!OM SHANTY....pace! I think the answer has been g…tag:theosophy.net,2009-03-30:3055387:Comment:18962009-03-30T08:27:07.582ZKatinka Hesselinkhttps://theosophy.net/profile/KatinkaHesselink
I think the answer has been given well by Jon - so I've only got this to add:<br />
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Theosophists study all religions and philosophies, especially those of India. And this obviously includes Advaita Vedanta.
I think the answer has been given well by Jon - so I've only got this to add:<br />
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Theosophists study all religions and philosophies, especially those of India. And this obviously includes Advaita Vedanta. tnks for this expl this is he…tag:theosophy.net,2009-03-29:3055387:Comment:15042009-03-29T06:44:26.206Zaugusto picernihttps://theosophy.net/profile/augustopicerni
tnks for this expl this is help me a lot!
tnks for this expl this is help me a lot!