All Discussions Tagged 'science' - Theosophy.Net2024-03-28T14:00:07Zhttps://theosophy.net/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=science&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHere's Where We Might Reach the Limits of Sciencetag:theosophy.net,2017-06-03:3055387:Topic:1532372017-06-03T21:36:18.433ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
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<p>This article may interest those who like epistemology in Science.</p>
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<p>There are some things we may never know—about time, consciousness, the universe, and how to predict the roll of the dice.</p>
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<p>This article may interest those who like epistemology in Science.</p>
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<p>There are some things we may never know—about time, consciousness, the universe, and how to predict the roll of the dice.</p>
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<p><a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/05/science-great-unknown-marcus-du-sautoy/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=link_fb20170514news-booktalkunknown&utm_campaign=Content&sf78742867=1" target="_blank">Here's Where We Might Reach the Limits of Science</a></p>
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<p></p> Reptile Intelligencetag:theosophy.net,2013-11-19:3055387:Topic:1312562013-11-19T21:20:58.771ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
<p>Reptilian intelligence is well known to exist for the fans of Doctor Who.</p>
<p>However, how does normal Reptile IQ on Earth measure up? New studies are coming out:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/video/science/100000002558704/reptilian-smarts.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20131119" target="_blank">Reptilian Intelligence</a></p>
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<p>Reptilian intelligence is well known to exist for the fans of Doctor Who.</p>
<p>However, how does normal Reptile IQ on Earth measure up? New studies are coming out:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/video/science/100000002558704/reptilian-smarts.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20131119" target="_blank">Reptilian Intelligence</a></p>
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<p></p> This was just fascinating..tag:theosophy.net,2013-09-20:3055387:Topic:1302532013-09-20T22:15:39.240ZPaigehttps://theosophy.net/profile/AyoCarter
<div class="content_title"><h1>Ancient Forest Thaws From Melting Glacial Tomb</h1>
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<div class="by_line_date">By Laura Poppick, Staff Writer | September 20, 2013 09:31am ET</div>
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<p>An ancient forest has thawed from under a <span class="adtext" id="adtext_3"><span class="adtext" id="adtext_3">melting glacier</span></span> in Alaska and is now exposed to the world for the first time in more than 1,000 years.</p>
<p>Stumps and logs have been popping out from under southern…</p>
<div class="content_title"><h1>Ancient Forest Thaws From Melting Glacial Tomb</h1>
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<p>An ancient forest has thawed from under a <span class="adtext" id="adtext_3"><span class="adtext" id="adtext_3">melting glacier</span></span> in Alaska and is now exposed to the world for the first time in more than 1,000 years.</p>
<p>Stumps and logs have been popping out from under southern Alaska's <a href="http://www.livescience.com/6162-glaciers-melt-water.html">Mendenhall Glacier</a> — a 36.8-square-mile (95.3 square kilometers) river of ice flowing into a <span class="adtext" id="adtext_6"><span class="adtext" id="adtext_6">lake near</span></span> Juneau — for nearly the past 50 years. However, just within the past year or so, researchers based at the <span class="adtext" id="adtext_1"><span class="adtext" id="adtext_1"></span></span></p>
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<p>"There are a lot of them, and being in a growth position is exciting because we can see the outermost part of the tree and count back to see how old the tree was," Cathy Connor, a geology professor at the University of Alaska Southeast who was involved in the investigation, told LiveScience's OurAmazingPlanet. "Mostly, people find chunks of wood helter-skelter, but to see these intact upright is kind of cool."</p>
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<p>The team has tentatively identified the trees as either spruce or hemlock, based on the diameter of the trunks and because these are the <span class="adtext" id="adtext_2"><span class="adtext" id="adtext_2">types of trees</span></span> growing in the region today, Connor said, but the researchers still need to further assess the samples to verify the tree type.</p>
<p>A protective tomb of gravel likely encased the trees more than 1,000 years ago, when the glacier was advancing, Connor said, basing the date on <a href="http://www.livescience.com/32291-how-do-scientists-date-ancient-things.htmlhttp:/www.livescience.com/32291-how-do-scientists-date-ancient-things.html">radiocarbon ages of the newly revealed wood</a>. As glaciers advance, Connor explained, they often emit summer meltwater streams that spew aprons of gravel beyond the glacier's edge. [<a href="http://www.livescience.com/31441-alaska-glacier-image.html">Images: Shrinking Alaska Glacier Spied from Space</a>]</p>
<p>A gravel layer about 4 to 5 feet (1.2 to 1.5 meters) high appears to have encased the trees before the glacier ultimately advanced enough to plow over them, snapping off limbs and preserving the stumps in an ice tomb.</p>
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<div><div><span><a target="_blank" href="http://pinterest.com/pin/create/button/?url=http%3A//www.livescience.com/39819-ancient-forest-thaws.html%3Fcmpid%3D514645&media=http://i.livescience.com/images/i/000/057/088/original/Mendenall_2.JPG?1379684402&description=Researchers%20have%20collected%20pieces%20of%20wood%20to%20date%20using%20radiocarbon%20dating%20techniques%2C%20and%20have%20found%20that%20the%20forest%20is%20more%20than%201%2C000%20years%20old.%20%3Cbr%20/%3E" class="pin-it-button"><img border="0" src="http://assets.pinterest.com/images/PinExt.png" title="Pin It"/></a></span>Researchers have collected pieces of wood to date using <span class="adtext" id="adtext_4"><span class="adtext" id="adtext_4">radiocarbon dating</span></span>techniques, and have found that the forest is more than 1,000 years old. <br/><span>Credit: Jamie Bradshaw</span><div><a rel="#custom57088" class="make_big">View full size image</a></div>
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<p>Taku Glacier, located south of Juneau, is currently triggering this same process as it advances over a modern forest of cottonwood trees, offering the researchers a chance to observe the process in real time, Connor said.</p>
<p>Unlike the growing Taku Glacier, which accumulates snow at a high elevation and thus is well situated to grow, the lower-elevation<a href="http://www.livescience.com/5121-alaskan-glaciers-retreat-thin.html">Mendenhall Glacier has retreated</a> by an <span class="adtext" id="adtext_5"><span class="adtext" id="adtext_5">average rate</span></span> of about 170 feet (52 m) per year since 2005. This year's summer retreat has not yet been calculated, but the team expects it to be relatively high due to unusually warm summer temperatures, Connor said.</p>
<p>Glacial retreat worries many locals who are concerned about the threat of <a href="http://www.livescience.com/24168-glacier-volume-sea-level-rise.html">rising sea levels</a> and loss of major freshwater sources that they rely on for drinking water. Anchorage, the state's most populated city, relies entirely on the retreating Eklutna Glacier for its drinking water.</p>
<p>Still, glacial retreat does offer an interesting opportunity to investigate well-preserved remnants of an ancient world. The team plans to return to the Mendenhall Glacier to dig through sediment in search of pine needles associated with the trees, along with other vegetation. They also plan to measure the growth bands of the trees to determine how old the trees were when they died.</p>
<p>"These are relict stories, and piecing them together with radiocarbon dating and stratigraphic work would help piece together the chapters of the story," Connor said.</p>
<p>The researchers have not yet published the results from the investigation but plan to do so once they have gathered more data.</p> Welcome to the Age of Denialtag:theosophy.net,2013-08-22:3055387:Topic:1288752013-08-22T17:12:14.253ZJoe Fultonhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JoeFulton
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong><span class="font-size-3" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva;">There's an interesting <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/opinion/welcome-to-the-age-of-denial.html?nl=opinion&emc=edit_ty_20130822&_r=0" target="_blank">Op-Ed piece in the New York Times</a> regarding the extent that items which are pretty well proven as fact are denied by many.…</span></strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong><span class="font-size-3" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva;">There's an interesting <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/opinion/welcome-to-the-age-of-denial.html?nl=opinion&emc=edit_ty_20130822&_r=0" target="_blank">Op-Ed piece in the New York Times</a> regarding the extent that items which are pretty well proven as fact are denied by many.</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong><span class="font-size-3" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva;">Whether it's climate change or evolution there seems to be this weird backward skid in the number of people who approach science and technology in a rational manner. It's like there is some deathwish to relive the middle ages.</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong><span class="font-size-3" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva;">The part of the article most telling to me was the bit about other academics deriding Carl Sagan for his willingness to go public with his views on science and culture.</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong><span class="font-size-3" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva;">Honestly I feel strongly that academics are a huge part of the problem. Not because they are wrong but because they are so smug in their knowledge and unwilling, to the point of loathing and contempt of most ordinary people to bother to communicate in terms that we can relate to. On the other hand, a Nazarene, Baptist, Muslim or other preacher understands the ways to get their message right to the heart of their congregation. If the scientific community is to get their message across, it has to be in the same visceral, crafty, in your face way that the religionists are so willing to do. Go for the gut and don't take any prisoners.</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong><span class="font-size-3" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva;">Effective communication means we have to come up with messages that speak to the heart as well as the head. Fundamentalists prey on the reptilian brain and frame everything in terms of survival, specifically that of the "soul". They work by exploiting fear and reward mechanisms quite effectively.</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong><span class="font-size-3" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva;">We may think ourselves above such rude communication but in our arrogance all we do is give ground to those who spread the language of superstition and prejudice, to the peril of us all.</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong><span class="font-size-3" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva;">Lest we forget the Great Library of Alexandria was taken down by the same kind of fanaticism that threatens rational thought today. Who will be the next Hypatia?</span></strong></span></p> Mystery of Prince Rupert's Drop at 130,000 fps - Smarter Every Day 86tag:theosophy.net,2013-06-06:3055387:Topic:1264342013-06-06T15:23:15.640ZDebhttps://theosophy.net/profile/Deb
<p>OK. I'm having a nerd moment. It's just so cool.</p>
<p>I will leave any esoteric connections or meanings to you to formulate for yourselves. Just…</p>
<p>OK. I'm having a nerd moment. It's just so cool.</p>
<p>I will leave any esoteric connections or meanings to you to formulate for yourselves. Just enjoy! </p>
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<p><em>Can't resist asking... are you human? I am starting to question what humans are.</em></p>
<p><em>Under the FAQ's</em> "<strong>what is Theosophy" </strong> <em><strong>#1 Divine/Human/Nature Triangle:</strong></em></p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>The Theosophist explores the interactions, dependencies and invisible correlations between the Divine/Human/Nature. Understanding this reality is their primary pursuit. The triangle represents the three principles upon which Theosophy is based.…</strong></em></p>
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<p><em>Can't resist asking... are you human? I am starting to question what humans are.</em></p>
<p><em>Under the FAQ's</em> "<strong>what is Theosophy" </strong> <em><strong>#1 Divine/Human/Nature Triangle:</strong></em></p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>The Theosophist explores the interactions, dependencies and invisible correlations between the Divine/Human/Nature. Understanding this reality is their primary pursuit. The triangle represents the three principles upon which Theosophy is based. The first principle is the existence of a Divine, which eastern theosophists have termed as “unknowable” in its totality. Part of it can be known by what is created by the Divine, i.e., the Creation. The second principle is Nature. The third principle is the human who is endowed with a special intelligence capable of knowing about these things. Theosophy is a means for exploring relationships amongst the three principles, laws governing those relationships, and predictions based on those laws.<br/> The nature of humans and humanity is a driving force for a continual journey to improve the state of humanity through understanding the origin, purpose and end (goal) of all that exists. Relationships between man and the Divine, man and Nature, and man and other human beings create an active journey.</strong></em></p>
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<p><em>I feel un-human the more I read this:</em></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>5. Practice of Concordance: The belief that there is one universal common perennial tradition or religion that is the same for all cultures and times, often referred to as the universal or universalism.</strong></p>
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<p>If the above is true then we are definitely something other then human in an universal thought so to speak. If we say we are human wouldn't that contradict <strong>"practice of concordance"</strong>?</p>
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<p><em><strong>If there is more life in the universe other than the life here on Earth how would that change the status quo of Earthlings? </strong></em></p>
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<p><strong><em>What exactly is a "human" universally thinking? </em></strong></p> Science, Esotericism & Synthesistag:theosophy.net,2013-04-08:3055387:Topic:1233342013-04-08T15:01:51.508ZJoe Fultonhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JoeFulton
<p>Starting off with the definition from The Free Dictionary:</p>
<p><br></br><span class="font-size-3"><strong>syn·the·sis</strong></span> (snth-ss)<br></br>n. pl. <strong>syn·the·ses</strong> (-sz)</p>
<p><strong>1</strong>.<br></br>a. The combining of separate elements or substances to form a coherent whole.<br></br>b. The complex whole so formed.<br></br><strong>2</strong>. Chemistry Formation of a compound from simpler compounds or elements.<br></br><strong>3</strong>. Philosophy<br></br>a. Reasoning from the general…</p>
<p>Starting off with the definition from The Free Dictionary:</p>
<p><br/><span class="font-size-3"><strong>syn·the·sis</strong></span> (snth-ss)<br/>n. pl. <strong>syn·the·ses</strong> (-sz)</p>
<p><strong>1</strong>.<br/>a. The combining of separate elements or substances to form a coherent whole.<br/>b. The complex whole so formed.<br/><strong>2</strong>. Chemistry Formation of a compound from simpler compounds or elements.<br/><strong>3</strong>. Philosophy<br/>a. Reasoning from the general to the particular; logical deduction.<br/>b. The combination of thesis and antithesis in the Hegelian dialectical process whereby a new and higher level of truth is produced.<br/>[Latin, collection, from Greek sunthesis, from suntithenai, to put together : sun-, syn- + tithenai, to put; see dh- in Indo-European roots.]<br/>synthe·sist n.</p>
<p>I like the practice of defining a term, as it gives a common ground to comment on, versus us coming up with whatever is in our head at the time. Goodness knows it is hard enough when we have the definition in front of us!</p>
<p>For our purposes we will use definitions 1a,b, and 3b. The reasoning in our work involves both inductive and deductive logic.</p>
<p>In this discussion we will ignore, for the time being the next iteration in Hegel's train of thought, courtesy of Karl Marx as it represents a dogmatic view not germane to this conversation. What we will concentrate on is the dialectic.</p>
<p>Now on to a couple basic ideas. First we will look at Science, then Esotericism.</p>
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<p><strong><span class="font-size-3">Science</span></strong></p>
<p>When we use the term science we refer specifically to the scientific method. To get into such fields as philosophy of science, is to walk into the area of the untestable and blind belief. Obviously this should not properly be called science. A better term is speculation.</p>
<p>So let's start with the basis of modern science, the Scientific Method.</p>
<p>There are several elements to the Scientific Method, as listed:</p>
<p>1) Ask a question. <br/>2) Come up with a hypothesis to answer the question.<br/>3) Predict the outcome.<br/>4) Test the prediction.<br/>5) Analyze the outcome.</p>
<p>Robert Heinlein, through his character Lazarus Long described the analysis part best of all when he said: "What are the facts? Again and again and again --- what are the facts? Shun wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget what "the stars foretell", avoid opinion, Care not what the neighbors think, never mind the unguessable "verdict of history" --- what are the facts, and to how many decimal places? You pilot always in to an unknown future; facts are your only chance. Get the facts!"</p>
<p>Proponents of science, for the most part take this point of view. There is an objectivity which is subject to constant questioning and experimentation and when pursued without bias tends towards a greater understanding of the unknown.</p>
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<p>The field of esotericism begins with a different assumption. Esotericism operates within the realm of the mind and holds that the world is a framework of symbols and correspondences operating with a natural framework that serves to transform the aspirant. Wheras science purports to be all about the objective and measurable, esotericism is about the subjective and experiential aspects of being. In addition, esotericism (and by extrapolation, Theosophy) teaches a kind of perennialism, that is there is a common, universal tradition that permeates all cultures and can be transmitted directly from one person to another.</p>
<p>The Theosophist, specifically looks to nature, myth and divinity to formulate their world view. It is, like Esotericism an approach rooted in subjective, personal experience and present in many cultures under many names. In addition, the nature of the Theosophic tradition is based directly on personal experience. It is subjective, and while many people throughout history have had Theosophical insights, it is the personal relationship between the person and reality (or divinity) which gives Theosophy its essence.</p>
<p>It is also through the process of active imagination that the Esotericist/Theosophist builds these connections. It is the imagination which fuels the fires of creativity and allows the discovery of deeper principles and realities.</p>
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<p>You have two points of view (a dialectic) which are quite opposite in nature, science based on objective observation, and testable hypothesis, and esotericism which is almost entirely subjective. No wonder there is an apparent conflict. Science holds that esotericism is untestable and therefore unprovable. Esotericism / Theosophy maintains that Science has no "soul" that it depends entirely on the senses, which are merely gateways to consciousness and limited by nature. From these points of view it is easy to understand why those with a scientific bent are at odds with those in the world of esoteric matters. It's like forcing an accountant to teach an art class. I guess it's fine if you paint by numbers (sic).</p>
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<p>There is a window for both views to reconcile and it is within the scientific method. Looking at the method above we find that of the five items listed, four are essentially mental processes. One could even make the point that the testing stage requires a good deal of imagination and a clear mental picture of what will produce the best test of one's idea.</p>
<p>Thus we have several processes or modes of thought in common between science and esotericism. First, someone has to have an idea. As in esotericism/theosophy this requires imagination, as does formulating a hypothesis and making a prediction. The first three parts of the Scientific Method are entirely mental in nature. That is important to understand. There is a dependency on symbols (i.e. mathematics) and logic in order to make the connections. However, imagination plays a similarly major role. Where science and esotericism part ways involves primarily the role of the objective and subjective. In science proof is the result of the analysis of an experiment verifying the hypothesis setting up the experiment. In esotericism, proof comes in the access to the higher realities and the direct contact with divinity. In both cases you end up with knowledge, one based on factual verification and the other the result of gnosis or direct experience.</p>
<p>I would argue that the two, rather than being at odds with each other are actually complimentary. Theosophic / Esoteric insights can help inform one in generating ideas, hypothesis and predictions and the same could be said likewise. In addition, scientific endeavor can be a source of new symbols and realities for the esotericist to draw upon and obtain a greater understanding of the world.</p>
<p>Ponder a bit on this and we would love to hear your thoughts.</p> Misconduct, Not Error is Main Cause of Life-Sciences Retractionstag:theosophy.net,2012-10-02:3055387:Topic:1168352012-10-02T19:38:33.679ZJoe Fultonhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JoeFulton
<p>A study, the largest of its kind published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences states that after a detailed review of biomedical and life-science research articles indexed by PubMed as retracted on May 3, 2012 reveals that only 21.3% of articles were retracted due to errors. The remainder were attributable to misconduct, including fraud, duplicate publication and/or plagiarism.</p>
<p>The percentage of articles retracted has increased 10-fold since 1975.</p>
<p>And people…</p>
<p>A study, the largest of its kind published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences states that after a detailed review of biomedical and life-science research articles indexed by PubMed as retracted on May 3, 2012 reveals that only 21.3% of articles were retracted due to errors. The remainder were attributable to misconduct, including fraud, duplicate publication and/or plagiarism.</p>
<p>The percentage of articles retracted has increased 10-fold since 1975.</p>
<p>And people wonder why there is so much skepticism regarding science in general. Science, as well as philosophy is supposed to be a form of searching for truth and has yielded many spectacular results. But where greed and a sociopathic disregard for the truth comes into play, everyone loses.</p>
<p>When someone does this kind of thing, you would hope that their career would be damaged for a very long time.</p>
<p>The full text is behind a paywall at pnas.org.</p> Open-Mindednesstag:theosophy.net,2011-11-16:3055387:Topic:883402011-11-16T03:59:00.067ZJon Fergushttps://theosophy.net/profile/JonFergus
<p>Saw this video today and thought I'd put it out there for everyone. Some interesting thoughts</p>
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<p>Saw this video today and thought I'd put it out there for everyone. Some interesting thoughts</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge/challenge-faq.html">http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge/challenge-faq.html</a></p>
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<p>If anyone could really prove "paranormal" phenomenon, do you think they would even come to challenge, and for the money!? </p>
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<p>If anyone could really prove "paranormal" phenomenon, do you think they would even come to challenge, and for the money!? </p>