Comments - Lankavatara and Secret Doctrine?? - Theosophy.Net2024-03-28T13:47:43Zhttps://theosophy.net/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=3055387%3ABlogPost%3A24541&xn_auth=noHow can one learn and underst…tag:theosophy.net,2010-04-02:3055387:Comment:245902010-04-02T00:03:50.744Zmichaelcarlohttps://theosophy.net/profile/michaelcarlo
How can one learn and understand if the teacher cannot explain what “is” but can only reply what is “not”. How does one contemplate the mystery of the forest without an understanding of the tree? We’re scattered like seeds in a garden upon the planes and sub-planes of our organizing and life giving Logos, the Sun. This sutra I believe was never meant to reveal any thing because “That” mystery is beyond revelation. The delusional imaginations of the lower self, driven by fear, in time become…
How can one learn and understand if the teacher cannot explain what “is” but can only reply what is “not”. How does one contemplate the mystery of the forest without an understanding of the tree? We’re scattered like seeds in a garden upon the planes and sub-planes of our organizing and life giving Logos, the Sun. This sutra I believe was never meant to reveal any thing because “That” mystery is beyond revelation. The delusional imaginations of the lower self, driven by fear, in time become tempered by the Inspirational Intuition of the higher self. The true function of the sutra in my opinion is to “still the mind, quiet the emotion and relax the physical body” enabling access to several doors that miraculously open before the student revealing his/her place in the Creation. I don't see the connection to…tag:theosophy.net,2010-04-01:3055387:Comment:245822010-04-01T09:23:41.856ZKatinka Hesselinkhttps://theosophy.net/profile/KatinkaHesselink
I don't see the connection to The Secret Doctrine.<br />
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The Lankavatara sutra is one of the main Mahayana Buddhist sutras, so yes, it's not likely to be 'Buddha' talking. Though perhaps Blavatsky would disagree. She seemed to buy into the whole - these texts were hidden and only now came into the open - claim. Scientists generally assume that that claim is a device to make new texts appear to belong to the tradition, and therefore credible.
I don't see the connection to The Secret Doctrine.<br />
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The Lankavatara sutra is one of the main Mahayana Buddhist sutras, so yes, it's not likely to be 'Buddha' talking. Though perhaps Blavatsky would disagree. She seemed to buy into the whole - these texts were hidden and only now came into the open - claim. Scientists generally assume that that claim is a device to make new texts appear to belong to the tradition, and therefore credible. This sutra seems to belong to…tag:theosophy.net,2010-03-31:3055387:Comment:245712010-03-31T22:06:18.775ZMartin Euserhttps://theosophy.net/profile/MartinEuser
This sutra seems to belong to Mahayana Buddhism, which deviates significantly from the older texts of Buddhism. Ask the webmaster of attan.com and he will tear it down more likely than not.<br />
One point seems in accord with theosophy, as per H.P. Blavatsky and G. de Purucker, namely that humans <i>attribute</i> reality, meaning, and truth to what they perceive. If they see something in the dark that in reality is a rope, but they perceive it to be a snake, then they react according to their…
This sutra seems to belong to Mahayana Buddhism, which deviates significantly from the older texts of Buddhism. Ask the webmaster of attan.com and he will tear it down more likely than not.<br />
One point seems in accord with theosophy, as per H.P. Blavatsky and G. de Purucker, namely that humans <i>attribute</i> reality, meaning, and truth to what they perceive. If they see something in the dark that in reality is a rope, but they perceive it to be a snake, then they react according to their perception of the snake, i.e. kill it or get away. This position is called <i>objective idealism</i>.<br />
The rope is still a rope, of course, despite one's active imagination of it being a snake. The sutra of the mahatma you…tag:theosophy.net,2010-03-30:3055387:Comment:245512010-03-30T15:54:14.642Zmichaelcarlohttps://theosophy.net/profile/michaelcarlo
The sutra of the mahatma you quote and his lofty vision of what he non-perceives is way above my humble pay grade. I’ll use the Earth as an example. Where he see’s illusion, I perceive reality dictated by the ordered hierarchies (solids, liquids, gases and ethers) forever unfolding the inner swabhavic self-nature (mineral, plant, animal, individualized man, etc) contained within this sphere in a spiraling evolutional arc. Fohat, the serpentine vehicle of the causeless, cause; (Divine Will)…
The sutra of the mahatma you quote and his lofty vision of what he non-perceives is way above my humble pay grade. I’ll use the Earth as an example. Where he see’s illusion, I perceive reality dictated by the ordered hierarchies (solids, liquids, gases and ethers) forever unfolding the inner swabhavic self-nature (mineral, plant, animal, individualized man, etc) contained within this sphere in a spiraling evolutional arc. Fohat, the serpentine vehicle of the causeless, cause; (Divine Will) deposits its residual footprint or effect in the lower worlds by stratifying the spiritual essence into material substance utilizing vibrational, cyclical rhythms of inbreathing and out breathing, activity and rest, manvantara and pralaya throughout the greater, lesser cycle. (as above so below) This Teacher, it seems, is minimizing the importance (life) of the players (Effects) in comparison to the overall victory, conception of the game. (Cause) Neutralizing the joy, honor and privilege (mental, emotional and physical) to experience what it is to be Man.