Comments - Killing Pigeons - Theosophy.Net2024-03-28T17:15:35Zhttps://theosophy.net/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=3055387%3ABlogPost%3A109529&xn_auth=noI know this is an old post, b…tag:theosophy.net,2015-08-21:3055387:Comment:1446472015-08-21T13:38:51.410ZDebhttps://theosophy.net/profile/Deb
<p>I know this is an old post, but I happened upon it today and it blew me away. I think this is a cross-road that all seekers come to as some point, in some way. Moving on past the philosophy of it, the pigeon(s) have given you a great gift, so you must thank them for this, and reflect on the magnitude of their gift, however large you feel that to be. In a way, perhaps you drew them to you, to provide an opportunity for growth for you. In any case, I looked up something about pigeons as…</p>
<p>I know this is an old post, but I happened upon it today and it blew me away. I think this is a cross-road that all seekers come to as some point, in some way. Moving on past the philosophy of it, the pigeon(s) have given you a great gift, so you must thank them for this, and reflect on the magnitude of their gift, however large you feel that to be. In a way, perhaps you drew them to you, to provide an opportunity for growth for you. In any case, I looked up something about pigeons as spirit guides or power animals - whatever. I thought it very interesting: </p>
<h1 class="entry-title"><a href="http://www.shamanicjourney.com/dove-pigeon-power-animal-symbol-of-peace-love-maternity-gentleness-spirit-messenger" target="_blank">Dove Pigeon Power Animal Symbol Of Peace Love Maternity Gentleness Spirit Messenger</a></h1>
<p>Dove/Pigeon’s gifts include – bringer of peace and love, understanding of gentleness, spirit messenger, communication between the two worlds, maternity, femininity, prophecy.</p>
<p>The Dove represents peace of the deepest kind. It soothes and quiets our worried and troubled thoughts, and enables us to find renewal in the silence of mind. In these moments of stillness we are able to appreciate the simple things in life. </p>
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<p>You can Google "spirit animal pigeon" and find the above site and others as well. I often read many and kind of get a synthesis of what they are all driving at when I'm hunting for understanding about a spirit animal. Anyway I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents even if I'm nearly 3 and a half years late! LOL :-D</p> on a slightly different note.…tag:theosophy.net,2012-03-10:3055387:Comment:1092862012-03-10T13:55:17.363ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
<p>on a slightly different note.</p>
<p>The way theosophy would work here is: 1) the bird forms an image in the mind 2) the object (bird) also reflects the mind back, and 3) the two identify with each other (to a smaller or greater extent) so that even the emotions can be an experience..<br/>This is part of the various uses of Imagination (Imaging, magining) which lead to an identification.</p>
<p>on a slightly different note.</p>
<p>The way theosophy would work here is: 1) the bird forms an image in the mind 2) the object (bird) also reflects the mind back, and 3) the two identify with each other (to a smaller or greater extent) so that even the emotions can be an experience..<br/>This is part of the various uses of Imagination (Imaging, magining) which lead to an identification.</p> My cat is very much of a cowa…tag:theosophy.net,2012-03-10:3055387:Comment:1094072012-03-10T13:24:06.772Zandrasnmhttps://theosophy.net/profile/andrasnm
<p>My cat is very much of a <strong>coward</strong> - THAT is a personality trait. He is not an outdoor cat.He ventures out of course, If I leave the door open he is calmer and happier. If I close it, often he gets agitated and panicy. Don't you have a pet like a Dog or a cat? with them it is easy to see individual traits that go beyond instincts or pure animalistic behaviour,</p>
<p>My cat is very much of a <strong>coward</strong> - THAT is a personality trait. He is not an outdoor cat.He ventures out of course, If I leave the door open he is calmer and happier. If I close it, often he gets agitated and panicy. Don't you have a pet like a Dog or a cat? with them it is easy to see individual traits that go beyond instincts or pure animalistic behaviour,</p> I do not understand when you…tag:theosophy.net,2012-03-10:3055387:Comment:1092832012-03-10T13:18:46.244ZCees Slobhttps://theosophy.net/profile/CeesSlob
<p><span class="hps" style="font: 16px/normal arial, sans-serif; color: #333333; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; background-color: #f5f5f5; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">I do not understand…</span></p>
<p><span style="font: 16px/normal arial, sans-serif; color: #333333; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; background-color: #f5f5f5; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="hps">I do not understand</span><span style="font: 16px/normal arial, sans-serif; color: #333333; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; background-color: #f5f5f5; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font: 16px/normal arial, sans-serif; color: #4d90f0; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; background-color: #f5f5f5; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="hps alt-edited">when you talk about the</span><span style="font: 16px/normal arial, sans-serif; color: #333333; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; background-color: #f5f5f5; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font: 16px/normal arial, sans-serif; color: #4d90f0; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; background-color: #f5f5f5; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="hps alt-edited">'' personality"</span><span style="font: 16px/normal arial, sans-serif; color: #333333; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; background-color: #f5f5f5; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font: 16px/normal arial, sans-serif; color: #333333; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; background-color: #f5f5f5; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="hps">of an animal.</span><br style="font: 16px/normal arial, sans-serif; color: #333333; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; background-color: #f5f5f5; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"/></p> every animal in our house (we…tag:theosophy.net,2012-03-10:3055387:Comment:1093972012-03-10T06:17:03.527ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
<p>every animal in our house (we have a lot of different types. Dogs, cats, Birds) has a distinct personality, intelligence and emotions.<br></br>Surprisingly - The Birds are the most intelligent. (surprising to me). They can do anything, include making tools and solving complex problems. Never use a combination lock on a bird cage. Do so at your own risk.<br></br><br></br>Every bug in our house goes outside - carried. However - the spiders do not (I won that with my wife. spiders in a house are good;…</p>
<p>every animal in our house (we have a lot of different types. Dogs, cats, Birds) has a distinct personality, intelligence and emotions.<br/>Surprisingly - The Birds are the most intelligent. (surprising to me). They can do anything, include making tools and solving complex problems. Never use a combination lock on a bird cage. Do so at your own risk.<br/><br/>Every bug in our house goes outside - carried. However - the spiders do not (I won that with my wife. spiders in a house are good; except for two species - they can stay depending upon their personality). <br/><br/>since we are hitting speculation now...<br/>I believe they have soul and spirit. A human is not special. Consciousness, developed into free will, cannot be distinguished as having any separate properties to "weed out" the truly dead ones. <br/><br/>The only "piece" of esotericism that I have found that deals with this is theosophy. The ability to use image, imagination, magination etc., and couple it with matter is somewhat special. However - do we use that as the required item to have a soul and spirit? (and, do all humans have this...?)<br/><br/></p> My cat has a distinct persona…tag:theosophy.net,2012-03-10:3055387:Comment:1092822012-03-10T05:16:33.196Zandrasnmhttps://theosophy.net/profile/andrasnm
<p>My cat has a distinct personality and we "communicate" telepathically (do not laugh we have a limited vocabulary, mainly, he tells me what he wants and I usually get it, others seldom do) but that is not the same as possessing a spirit, is it? </p>
<p>My cat has a distinct personality and we "communicate" telepathically (do not laugh we have a limited vocabulary, mainly, he tells me what he wants and I usually get it, others seldom do) but that is not the same as possessing a spirit, is it? </p> As a side note...do animals h…tag:theosophy.net,2012-03-10:3055387:Comment:1092812012-03-10T04:35:49.224Zandrasnmhttps://theosophy.net/profile/andrasnm
<p>As a side note...do animals have a spirit? I suspect, they have a group soul per species. I am not sure...in a way I am lead to believe that all things - animate or inanimate have a slice of a divine, but that is not the same as Spirit. Is it? What do you think?</p>
<p>As a side note...do animals have a spirit? I suspect, they have a group soul per species. I am not sure...in a way I am lead to believe that all things - animate or inanimate have a slice of a divine, but that is not the same as Spirit. Is it? What do you think?</p> Some things done, long ago, a…tag:theosophy.net,2012-03-10:3055387:Comment:1092792012-03-10T03:00:29.661ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
<p>Some things done, long ago, are hard to forgive myself for.</p>
<p>Currently, my approach to these things is to let nature balance.</p>
<p>too many mosquitoes? build more bat houses in your yard.</p>
<p>Pigeons a problem? They have natural predators. pick one one you can live with. (I think our local raccoons here eliminate pigeon problems, not sure. We have hawks too). </p>
<p>I also have trapping cages for everything from mice to foxes to racoons.…</p>
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<p>Some things done, long ago, are hard to forgive myself for.</p>
<p>Currently, my approach to these things is to let nature balance.</p>
<p>too many mosquitoes? build more bat houses in your yard.</p>
<p>Pigeons a problem? They have natural predators. pick one one you can live with. (I think our local raccoons here eliminate pigeon problems, not sure. We have hawks too). </p>
<p>I also have trapping cages for everything from mice to foxes to racoons.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY" target="_blank">Spring Solution for Pigeons (T. Lehrer)</a></p>
<p></p> While killing is approached p…tag:theosophy.net,2012-03-09:3055387:Comment:1092772012-03-09T20:13:34.591Zornamentalmindhttps://theosophy.net/profile/BillFaust
<p>While killing is approached philosophically on different levels even within Buddhist traditions, the personal wisdom shared here is the Truth.</p>
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<p>In that spirit, when I was about 3 years old and was playing in the back yard in a garden, my mother came out to see what I was doing. I had found a night crawler and was learning about it by moving it with a stick. My mother in her wisdom told me to be careful with it “…so it can go home.” I took this in. After she had returned to the…</p>
<p>While killing is approached philosophically on different levels even within Buddhist traditions, the personal wisdom shared here is the Truth.</p>
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<p>In that spirit, when I was about 3 years old and was playing in the back yard in a garden, my mother came out to see what I was doing. I had found a night crawler and was learning about it by moving it with a stick. My mother in her wisdom told me to be careful with it “…so it can go home.” I took this in. After she had returned to the kitchen, in the process of continued experimentation of worm reactions to stick prodding, I severed it into two pieces. I watched in fascination at both parts wiggling there in the dirt. And then, in a thunderstrike my consciousness flashed on the truth that I had killed it! In abject horror, I ran as well as my little legs could carry me to the back door crying and sobbing to my mother that “Worm can’t go home!”</p> Thanks for all who responded.…tag:theosophy.net,2012-03-09:3055387:Comment:1093912012-03-09T15:08:13.135Zandrasnmhttps://theosophy.net/profile/andrasnm
<p>Thanks for all who responded. Kirk, that bridge I will cross when I come to it...right now I will kill them no more, especially, if they are next door and do not poop all over us.....</p>
<p>I must learn to be more discriminating because when I was shooting them next door I was enjoying it at times, that what got to me, also when I shot one and I break their wings...they suffer for days. </p>
<p>Thanks for all who responded. Kirk, that bridge I will cross when I come to it...right now I will kill them no more, especially, if they are next door and do not poop all over us.....</p>
<p>I must learn to be more discriminating because when I was shooting them next door I was enjoying it at times, that what got to me, also when I shot one and I break their wings...they suffer for days. </p>