Theosophical Society at Adyar - Lawsuits and News - Theosophy.Net2024-03-29T12:24:03Zhttps://theosophy.net/forum/topics/theosophical-society-at-adyar-lawsuits-and-news?groupUrl=news&commentId=3055387%3AComment%3A149631&groupId=3055387%3AGroup%3A113997&feed=yes&xn_auth=noOwnership of 81 acres of prim…tag:theosophy.net,2024-02-05:3055387:Comment:1974742024-02-05T18:11:40.495ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
<p><br></br>Ownership of 81 acres of prime invaluable land along the seashore is in dispute and heirs of original owners are litigating to get it back from Theosophical Society at Adyar.</p>
<p>Government authorities have ordered TS to appear before them on February 14th with documents supporting the ownership claim.</p>
<p>Keep tuned for the outcome of the meeting.</p>
<p>Property is the priciest and is valued at Rs. 4,000 crores (US$500 million).</p>
<p>Who knows what is the Karma of TS. Keep…</p>
<p><br/>Ownership of 81 acres of prime invaluable land along the seashore is in dispute and heirs of original owners are litigating to get it back from Theosophical Society at Adyar.</p>
<p>Government authorities have ordered TS to appear before them on February 14th with documents supporting the ownership claim.</p>
<p>Keep tuned for the outcome of the meeting.</p>
<p>Property is the priciest and is valued at Rs. 4,000 crores (US$500 million).</p>
<p>Who knows what is the Karma of TS. Keep tuned</p> Международный Теософский Кон…tag:theosophy.net,2022-10-04:3055387:Comment:1920192022-10-04T20:27:09.636ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
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<div class="xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs x126k92a"><div dir="auto">Dear Theosophists <span class="x3nfvp2 x1j61x8r x1fcty0u xdj266r xhhsvwb xat24cr xgzva0m xxymvpz xlup9mm x1kky2od"><img height="16" width="16" alt="❗" src="https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/t50/1/16/2757.png"/></span>We inform you that the Russian Lodge "Adamant", as well as other members of the Theosophical Society with diplomas from the TS (Adyar), namely 46 theosophists, announce their official withdrawal from membership of the TS (Adyar), according to their personal statements.</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">The decision of the General Council of the Theosophical Society (Adyar), headed by an American citizen Tim Boyd, to liquidate the Adamant Lodge without providing the documents on the basis of which this decision was made is unprecedented. The leadership of Adyar did not bother to acquaint the Theosophists with either the Protocol of the General Council or any other information, for example, who exactly was present at the General Council and what exactly the Adamant Lodge was accused of, did not bother to request explanations from the Adamant Lodge, on the basis of which a decision would have been made to revoke the status of a Lodge (Charter).</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">The absence of the above documents proves that the leadership of Adyar has forgotten how serious and responsible this decision to revoke the Charter of the Lodge is and that they are responsible for it before the entire world community.</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">Moreover, in order to make such a responsible decision, it is necessary, first of all, to have a decision of the Theosophical Society of Russia, at least a Protocol of the General Meeting of all Lodges in Russia with a list of evidence about the "non-Theosophical activities" of the Adamant Lodge and the results of the vote.</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">It took a lot of efforts, long work and a path of learning to create the Lodge. At present, the Adamant Lodge is known for its activities to Theosophists of different countries, because it is an engine of Theosophical thought that makes its efforts and selfless work for the benefit of humanity under the auspices of the Theosophical Society (Adyar) so that the banner of Theosophy becomes visible over the world.</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">For several years, the Adamant Lodge has implemented many Theosophical projects with no analogues in the world and brought the concept of Theosophy to a publicly significant social level. But the leadership of Adyar preferred not to notice anything like this, but to unfairly accuse the Lodge of a false representation of Theosophy and liquidate it.</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto"><span class="x3nfvp2 x1j61x8r x1fcty0u xdj266r xhhsvwb xat24cr xgzva0m xxymvpz xlup9mm x1kky2od"><img height="16" width="16" alt="✅" src="https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/t33/1/16/2705.png"/></span>We believe that the political decision of the General Council and the TS (Adyar) undermined the foundations of brotherhood, the basis of cooperation, the independence of thoughts and judgments, common trust and practically put forward a ban on the study and research of "The Secret Doctrine" of H.P. Blavatsky. Thus, it confirmed its incapacity, inability and unwillingness to conduct research and public activities at a qualitatively new level according to modern standards. You could have used the experience of the Adamant Lodge, but you chose to liquidate it. Your and A. Besputin’s painstaking work against Adamant's activities has been conducted for a long time and purposefully, and our open statement of support for Peace against fascism was only a pretext for liquidation.</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">For many years you have been covering the maleficent activities of the representative of the president (Adyar) in Russia A. Besputin, who was not accepting documents for admission to the TS and the issuance of diplomas, documents for the creation of new Lodges, groups in Russia, did not fulfill many decisions of TS Lodges, did not send a full package of documents to the Adyar about the Decision of 7 Lodges to create an Association of the TS of Russia, for 6 years has not submitted a single financial report with the attachment of documents relevant to the decisions of the Lodges on the expenditure of the general contributions of TS members. About all these violations and A. Besputin’s abuses of authority you have repeatedly been officially informed by Russian Lodges, but you did not take into account these facts.</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">You defend fascism and the proxy war unleashed by the United States with the help of Ukraine against Russia, thereby finally undermining confidence in the Theosophical Society.</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">You once rejected W.Q. Judge, the only one who did not betray H.P. Blavatsky (in her own words), you wallowed in rites and rituals, which H.P.B. fought against, you equated Theosophy with religion, forgetting that There is no religion higher than Truth.</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">We leave without regret such a society, which has violated all three main goals of the creation of the TS and voluntarily cancel our diplomas. But we will forever preserve our love for Adyar and reverence for the place where the Masters visited, despite the fact that after the departure of Helena Petrovna Blavatsky from the earthly plane, They left it.</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto"><span class="x3nfvp2 x1j61x8r x1fcty0u xdj266r xhhsvwb xat24cr xgzva0m xxymvpz xlup9mm x1kky2od"><img height="16" width="16" alt="✅" src="https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/t33/1/16/2705.png"/></span>Our activity has never depended on anyone's decisions and assessments, because knowledge and the development of consciousness do not depend on the presence or absence of a diploma. True Brotherhood is measured by other measures – in Spirit.</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">Here are the words of one of the free Theosophists from Russia, not a member of a Lodge, who, having passed the whole story through the heart, wrote in a statement about leaving the TS: "Helena Petrovna Blavatsky was born in our Land, and no Adyar will ever truly understand Her Soul! Her Great Heart! Let's recollect how Our Master was wounded in a Russian-Turkish War, let's recollect how Helena Petrovna smashed furniture of an English lord, just because he said bad things about Russia! I'm leaving Adyar, I'm leaving my diploma to you without regret. Because I know you've lost everything! And we, who love our dear Helena Petrovna, are finally with Her forever!"</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">We are starting a new journey and invite you all to promote Theosophical thought together, to make discoveries, to explore the Laws of the Cosmos, Nature and Man. The time has come for Theosophy to go into science, culture, health care, education. The activity of the International Center of Theosophy, H.P. Blavatsky International Research Center, begins. And may the Divine Wisdom illuminate this World.</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">"I, a survivor of the Siege of Leningrad, declare my voluntary withdrawal from the Theosophical Society in Adyar, based on my sincere conviction that from a fraternal organization the Theosophical Society has become a political one, activities of which and those who helped in making this blasphemous decision to liquidate the only working Lodge in Russia, the Adamant Lodge, are directed against Russia."</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">"I attribute my leaving to the loss of confidence in the TS Adyar in the person of Tim Boyd, since the society discredited itself as a Theosophical organziation by illegally depriving, in violation of procedural norms, the Adamant Lodge (Russia) of its Charter, with the participation of A. Besputin (the representative of the president in the Russian Federation). I consider my presence in the Adyar Society incompatible with the theosophical worldview".</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">"I ask you to exclude me from the Theosophical Society (Adyar) at my own request, especially since I have already joined another Theosophical society, where there is no politics and destruction of Theosophical thought, but there is a Brotherhood".</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">"I cannot accept your position in relation to the special operation in the Donbas, which has turned into a bloodbath due to the gross interference of America and Western countries using Ukraine as a weapon against Russia. You have failed the tests and betrayed the founders of the TS, the Masters of the East, the Divine Entity. Without these Great Ascetics and carriers of True Knowledge, your society is dead. Under your “sensitive” leadership, the TS has turned into a society of traitors and to be a member of it means to be a traitor. Not a chance!"</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">"A society that rejects its best representatives, who give unique and original ideas and directions for the study of Theosophical works and the socialization of Theosophy, who have proved their highest devotion to Helena Petrovna Blavatsky and the Masters, as evidenced by decades of experience, such a society does not have the future that is commanded by the Masters of Light".</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">"I ask you to withdraw me from the Theosophical Society (Adyar), because I consider it impossible for me to stay in the same organization with you."</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">"In connection with the anti-Russian position of the leadership of the Theosophical Society (Adyar) and non-fraternal behavior towards Theosophists of Russia, disrespect for the memory of the Founder of the Theosophical Society Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, who was a great patriot of Russia and made every effort to elevate the name of Russia in the world, I declare my withdrawal from the membership of this TS. Were HPB now embodied in a physical body, she would undoubtedly stand on the side of Russia in the issue of conducting the special operation in Ukraine. All the talk that this is not the case only means that people who speak against Russia and against the fact that at this time it is impossible to solve the issue of growing fascism on the territory of Ukraine in other ways, except for the one our President is conducting, do not understand that there is a great division, equal or maybe more dramatic than that which took place during the Mahabharata. Those who do not see the depth of cause-and-effect relationships and the complexity of what is happening simply do not see and do not feel Theosophy and the Teaching of the Heart. In this regard, I am glad to announce my withdrawal from the Theosophical Society (Adyar) and I hope that those who are still able to look over their personal concepts and insinuations of Belial’s servants against Russia will be able to shed the veil of anti-Russian propaganda and Russophobia, and take the side of Those Who gave them the opportunity to follow the Path!"</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">- Application to TS (Adyar)</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">- The decision of the TS (Adyar)</div>
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class="x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv x1qq9wsj xo1l8bm" href="https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/world?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZWUSfwshITgrvmVTdebafWczFtpI0hYi76GKVHB81xYwFTmpFVszLeKMHrfFJYEanMsg2M_E81nWJ8YzeUukmx_zWrBEx2J--JkSGP4sdGwasdYEnN17eJO5jBAH1hYmNI-inWaCrRSa9JPuykyVLA83-iSskGPbfqOgiXjR3eHfGtCElUpuU61FlGv_kuDAXG4zFRpi_pqrMynF5t81quD&__tn__=*NK-y-R">#world</a></span> <span><a class="x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv x1qq9wsj xo1l8bm" href="https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/scientificseminars?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZWUSfwshITgrvmVTdebafWczFtpI0hYi76GKVHB81xYwFTmpFVszLeKMHrfFJYEanMsg2M_E81nWJ8YzeUukmx_zWrBEx2J--JkSGP4sdGwasdYEnN17eJO5jBAH1hYmNI-inWaCrRSa9JPuykyVLA83-iSskGPbfqOgiXjR3eHfGtCElUpuU61FlGv_kuDAXG4zFRpi_pqrMynF5t81quD&__tn__=*NK-y-R">#scientificseminars</a></span> <span><a class="x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv x1qq9wsj xo1l8bm" href="https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/philosophy?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZWUSfwshITgrvmVTdebafWczFtpI0hYi76GKVHB81xYwFTmpFVszLeKMHrfFJYEanMsg2M_E81nWJ8YzeUukmx_zWrBEx2J--JkSGP4sdGwasdYEnN17eJO5jBAH1hYmNI-inWaCrRSa9JPuykyVLA83-iSskGPbfqOgiXjR3eHfGtCElUpuU61FlGv_kuDAXG4zFRpi_pqrMynF5t81quD&__tn__=*NK-y-R">#philosophy</a></span> <span><a class="x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv x1qq9wsj xo1l8bm" href="https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/truth?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZWUSfwshITgrvmVTdebafWczFtpI0hYi76GKVHB81xYwFTmpFVszLeKMHrfFJYEanMsg2M_E81nWJ8YzeUukmx_zWrBEx2J--JkSGP4sdGwasdYEnN17eJO5jBAH1hYmNI-inWaCrRSa9JPuykyVLA83-iSskGPbfqOgiXjR3eHfGtCElUpuU61FlGv_kuDAXG4zFRpi_pqrMynF5t81quD&__tn__=*NK-y-R">#truth</a></span> <span><a class="x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv x1qq9wsj xo1l8bm" href="https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/knowledge?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZWUSfwshITgrvmVTdebafWczFtpI0hYi76GKVHB81xYwFTmpFVszLeKMHrfFJYEanMsg2M_E81nWJ8YzeUukmx_zWrBEx2J--JkSGP4sdGwasdYEnN17eJO5jBAH1hYmNI-inWaCrRSa9JPuykyVLA83-iSskGPbfqOgiXjR3eHfGtCElUpuU61FlGv_kuDAXG4zFRpi_pqrMynF5t81quD&__tn__=*NK-y-R">#knowledge</a></span> <span><a class="x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv x1qq9wsj xo1l8bm" href="https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/time?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZWUSfwshITgrvmVTdebafWczFtpI0hYi76GKVHB81xYwFTmpFVszLeKMHrfFJYEanMsg2M_E81nWJ8YzeUukmx_zWrBEx2J--JkSGP4sdGwasdYEnN17eJO5jBAH1hYmNI-inWaCrRSa9JPuykyVLA83-iSskGPbfqOgiXjR3eHfGtCElUpuU61FlGv_kuDAXG4zFRpi_pqrMynF5t81quD&__tn__=*NK-y-R">#time</a></span> <span><a class="x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv x1qq9wsj xo1l8bm" href="https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/metaphysics?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZWUSfwshITgrvmVTdebafWczFtpI0hYi76GKVHB81xYwFTmpFVszLeKMHrfFJYEanMsg2M_E81nWJ8YzeUukmx_zWrBEx2J--JkSGP4sdGwasdYEnN17eJO5jBAH1hYmNI-inWaCrRSa9JPuykyVLA83-iSskGPbfqOgiXjR3eHfGtCElUpuU61FlGv_kuDAXG4zFRpi_pqrMynF5t81quD&__tn__=*NK-y-R">#metaphysics</a></span> <span><a class="x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv x1qq9wsj xo1l8bm" href="https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/research?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZWUSfwshITgrvmVTdebafWczFtpI0hYi76GKVHB81xYwFTmpFVszLeKMHrfFJYEanMsg2M_E81nWJ8YzeUukmx_zWrBEx2J--JkSGP4sdGwasdYEnN17eJO5jBAH1hYmNI-inWaCrRSa9JPuykyVLA83-iSskGPbfqOgiXjR3eHfGtCElUpuU61FlGv_kuDAXG4zFRpi_pqrMynF5t81quD&__tn__=*NK-y-R">#research</a></span> <span><a class="x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv x1qq9wsj xo1l8bm" href="https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/scientificcenter?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZWUSfwshITgrvmVTdebafWczFtpI0hYi76GKVHB81xYwFTmpFVszLeKMHrfFJYEanMsg2M_E81nWJ8YzeUukmx_zWrBEx2J--JkSGP4sdGwasdYEnN17eJO5jBAH1hYmNI-inWaCrRSa9JPuykyVLA83-iSskGPbfqOgiXjR3eHfGtCElUpuU61FlGv_kuDAXG4zFRpi_pqrMynF5t81quD&__tn__=*NK-y-R">#scientificcenter</a></span> <span><a class="x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv x1qq9wsj xo1l8bm" href="https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/adyar?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZWUSfwshITgrvmVTdebafWczFtpI0hYi76GKVHB81xYwFTmpFVszLeKMHrfFJYEanMsg2M_E81nWJ8YzeUukmx_zWrBEx2J--JkSGP4sdGwasdYEnN17eJO5jBAH1hYmNI-inWaCrRSa9JPuykyVLA83-iSskGPbfqOgiXjR3eHfGtCElUpuU61FlGv_kuDAXG4zFRpi_pqrMynF5t81quD&__tn__=*NK-y-R">#Adyar</a></span> <span><a class="x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv x1qq9wsj xo1l8bm" href="https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/theosophicalsocietyadyar?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZWUSfwshITgrvmVTdebafWczFtpI0hYi76GKVHB81xYwFTmpFVszLeKMHrfFJYEanMsg2M_E81nWJ8YzeUukmx_zWrBEx2J--JkSGP4sdGwasdYEnN17eJO5jBAH1hYmNI-inWaCrRSa9JPuykyVLA83-iSskGPbfqOgiXjR3eHfGtCElUpuU61FlGv_kuDAXG4zFRpi_pqrMynF5t81quD&__tn__=*NK-y-R">#TheosophicalsocietyAdyar</a></span></div>
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</div> [ Theosophy (Adyar) & R…tag:theosophy.net,2022-10-04:3055387:Comment:1919212022-10-04T20:21:49.725ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
<p>[ Theosophy (Adyar) & Russian Lodges ]</p>
<p>[ Theosophy (Adyar) & Russian Lodges ]</p> This is a further clarificati…tag:theosophy.net,2019-09-03:3055387:Comment:1636162019-09-03T18:16:37.083ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
<p>This is a further clarification by Scott Ramsey:</p>
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<p><a class="_6qw4" href="https://www.facebook.com/RSRJR">Scott Ramsey</a><span> </span><span dir="ltr"><span class="_3l3x"><span>John Mead - I really didn't intend to create an incident here. This happened years ago and nothing has come up until now.</span><br></br><span>My primary concern is and has always been the apparent fact that the Katrona property is in the name of an individual and not the TS or ES. As an experienced…</span></span></span></p>
<p>This is a further clarification by Scott Ramsey:</p>
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<p><a class="_6qw4" href="https://www.facebook.com/RSRJR">Scott Ramsey</a><span> </span><span dir="ltr"><span class="_3l3x"><span>John Mead - I really didn't intend to create an incident here. This happened years ago and nothing has come up until now.</span><br/><span>My primary concern is and has always been the apparent fact that the Katrona property is in the name of an individual and not the TS or ES. As an experienced attorney, property owner and renovator of historic properties, that bothers me deeply as it should bother everyone else. That is why I volunteered to oversee the transfer of the Katrona property from the individual to the ES or TS. The individual may be a wonderful person with the best of intentions,however if that person passes or gets into financial or legal trouble it potentially could create a legal and taxation nightmare. I was just trying to help by making that offer ,but was told that would be impossible. </span><br/><span>Finally, I am a well educated, experienced and seasoned person in business. When I was told that I had to leave or join thie ES by my roommate at the conference, I checked with some of the people running the confrence and they verified that Katona was an ES facility intended for use by the ES. That is when I began having serious reservations about being there. Never did I ever for a second think that the TS was totally controlled by the ES. It was a shock to learn that and I still disagree with it. It is the Esoteric Section,which implies that it is a "section" of the Theosophical Society, when in fact the ES organization actually runs the TS as if the TS is a section of the ES. </span><br/><span>Sorry, I really do not mean to offend anyone or start any trouble, but the TS is built on the Truth and that is simply thr Truth of what should be done here.</span><br/><span>In reality the TS is operated as an arm of a secretive and private group, the ES ,and in my humble opinion that is not how it should be.</span><br/><span>Thanks.</span></span></span></p> Scott Ramsey Please let me re…tag:theosophy.net,2019-09-03:3055387:Comment:1636152019-09-03T15:46:33.931ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/RSRJR"><strong>Scott Ramsey</strong></a> <span>Please let me respond to Mrs. Hebert's email so that we have the facts correct. <br></br> First, I never claimed that the Facilitators of the Program asked me to leave. I was told by my roommate that he had been asked to tell me that I should join the ES or leave. I do not know the identity of the person who told him that.<br></br> Second, as far as A. Bessant and J. Krishnamurti living on the property. I was told that…</span></p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/RSRJR"><strong>Scott Ramsey</strong></a> <span>Please let me respond to Mrs. Hebert's email so that we have the facts correct. <br/> First, I never claimed that the Facilitators of the Program asked me to leave. I was told by my roommate that he had been asked to tell me that I should join the ES or leave. I do not know the identity of the person who told him that.<br/> Second, as far as A. Bessant and J. Krishnamurti living on the property. I was told that after the Krotona property was purchased they "stayed " in that building during the construction of the other facilities there. This may be a bit of " hair-splitting" by someone, or the information I was told may have been incorrect.<br/> Third, the rest of the information in Mrs. Herbert's email appears to be correct.<br/> Finally, I am not attacking anyone. I am just repeating what in fact happened.<br/> Thanks ,and I hope that this clarifies the matter.</span></p> Published by Theo Sophia · 16…tag:theosophy.net,2019-09-03:3055387:Comment:1633222019-09-03T15:45:30.569ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
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<div class="_5pcp _5lel _2jyu _232_" id="feed_subtitle_1355973167889013:6:0"><span>Published by <a class="_5pcq _39g5" title="Theo Sophia" href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009140249943&hc_location=group">Theo Sophia</a><a class="uiHelpLink mls" href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/theosnet/#"></a></span><span class="_6spk"><span> </span>·<span> </span></span><span class="l_xgvwkz_2y"><span class="fsm fwn fcg"><a class="_5pcq" href="https://www.facebook.com/theosophynews/posts/1355973167889013" target=""><abbr title="9/2/19, 6:46 PM" class="_5ptz timestamp livetimestamp"><span class="timestampContent">16 hrs</span></abbr></a></span></span></div>
<div class="mtm _5pco"><div id="id_5d6e880eef16d7850141264" class="text_exposed_root text_exposed"><p>RAMSEY INCIDENT AT KROTONA ---<br/>Just now got a response from Bro. Barbara Hebert, President fo American Section and copied below. Hope this information is helpfu<span class="text_exposed_show">l and useful. Theosophy News welcomes replies with their feedback. Thank you</span></p>
<div class="text_exposed_show"><p>++++<br/>9/2/19</p>
<p>Dear Sir,<br/>I am in receipt of your email dated August 31 regarding a post on Theosophy News about Scott Ramsey. I am also aware of the additional post regarding Mr. Ramsey's longer version of what he says occurred at Krotona when he was invited to the Partners in Theosophy Program. I have been in touch with the individuals at Krotona who facilitate the Partners in Theosophy Program. There are a few things that I would like to point out:</p>
<p>Individuals who are invited to the Partners in Theosophy program do not have to be members of the ES, and in fact, many of them are not members of the ES.<br/>The Partners in Theosophy program is strictly a program of the Krotona School of Theosophy, not of the TSA.<span> </span><br/>The facilitators of Partners in Theosophy did not ask Mr. Ramsey to leave before the end of the week.<br/>Annie Besant and J. Krishnamurti never lived on the grounds of the Krotona Institute.<br/>The Krotona Institute property in Ojai has never been owned by the TSA.</p>
<p>I hope this information is helpful to you.</p>
<p>Barbara<br/>--<span> </span><br/>Barbara B. Hebert, Ph.D., President<br/>Theosophical Society in America<br/>1926 N. Main St.<br/>Wheaton, IL 60187</p>
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To the…tag:theosophy.net,2019-09-02:3055387:Comment:1635192019-09-02T02:57:35.505ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
<p>(from Theosophy News)</p>
<p>To the Outer Head of the Adyar Esoteric Section.</p>
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<p>Written November 1976, to Dr. I. K. Taimni</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Regarding the Future of Theosophical Society (Adyar) Esoteric School</p>
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<p>G.A. Farthin</p>
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<p><span>Geoffrey Farthing (1909-2004) was a leading member of the Adyar Theosophical Society in the 20th century</span></p>
<p><span>and author of several books. In 1976, he wrote a classified letter to Dr. I.K. Taimni (see…</span></p>
<p>(from Theosophy News)</p>
<p>To the Outer Head of the Adyar Esoteric Section.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Written November 1976, to Dr. I. K. Taimni</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Regarding the Future of Theosophical Society (Adyar) Esoteric School</p>
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<p>G.A. Farthin</p>
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<p><span>Geoffrey Farthing (1909-2004) was a leading member of the Adyar Theosophical Society in the 20th century</span></p>
<p><span>and author of several books. In 1976, he wrote a classified letter to Dr. I.K. Taimni (see below), then the</span></p>
<p><span>Director or </span><em>Outer Head</em><span> of the Esoteric School (E.S.) of the Adyar Society. </span></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.blavatskytrust.org.uk/html/articles/to%20outer%20head%20adyar%20es.htm?fbclid=IwAR193vlzClKkLrBxcBI7Rctu4eVMrVc2gV7y7L_XVsWT74b6qXHiGco5lx4" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Link to Letter</a></p>
<p><span>==-==-==-==-</span></p> It is interesting that HPB,…tag:theosophy.net,2019-09-01:3055387:Comment:1636142019-09-01T21:02:54.081ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
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<p>It is interesting that HPB, who smoked and ate meat, would not be eligible to join the ES. She would get kicked out as well.</p>
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<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2867571987?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2867571987?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-center"/></a></p>
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<p>It is interesting that HPB, who smoked and ate meat, would not be eligible to join the ES. She would get kicked out as well.</p>
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<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2867571987?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2867571987?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-center"/></a></p> A another note from Scott;
…tag:theosophy.net,2019-09-01:3055387:Comment:1636132019-09-01T20:31:58.032ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
<p>A another note from Scott;</p>
<p></p>
<p><span> </span><span dir="ltr"><span class="_3l3x"><span>post by Scott Ramsey (further clarification):</span></span></span></p>
<p><span dir="ltr"><span class="_3l3x"><span>I want to make it clear that the vast majority of the people affiliated with Katrona are good ,well intentioned individuals. When they found out they apologized and told me that the information I had been told was incorrect and that no TS member invited to participate in a program…</span></span></span></p>
<p>A another note from Scott;</p>
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<p><span> </span><span dir="ltr"><span class="_3l3x"><span>post by Scott Ramsey (further clarification):</span></span></span></p>
<p><span dir="ltr"><span class="_3l3x"><span>I want to make it clear that the vast majority of the people affiliated with Katrona are good ,well intentioned individuals. When they found out they apologized and told me that the information I had been told was incorrect and that no TS member invited to participate in a program there had to be a member of nor were they required to join the ES. </span><br/><span>However, some there were obviously misinformed and made a mistake in telling me that . </span><br/><span>Nevertheless. I also agree that the title to such a property should not be in the name of any individual and should be returned to the TS or ES. Also that historic buildings there should not be demolished, but should be restored for the benefit of the TS as a whole.</span></span></span></p>
<p></p> Here is some news from Theoso…tag:theosophy.net,2019-09-01:3055387:Comment:1633212019-09-01T18:55:52.036ZJohnhttps://theosophy.net/profile/JohnEMead
<p>Here is some news from Theosophy News (FaceBook) and Theos-talk (Yahoo).</p>
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<p><span> (excerpt: discussion from Theosophy News)</span><br></br><br></br><span>Scott Ramsey: Before this story grows legs and get exaggerated, let me tell exactly what happened. </span><br></br><span>I was invited to participate in the Partners in Theosophy program at Katrona in Ojai for a week. I was looking forward to it. When I arrived the people there were warm,friendly, helpful…</span></p>
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<p><span> (excerpt: discussion from Theosophy News)</span><br/><br/><span>Scott Ramsey: Before this story grows legs and get exaggerated, let me tell exactly what happened. </span><br/><span>I was invited to participate in the Partners in Theosophy program at Katrona in Ojai for a week. I was looking forward to it. When I arrived the people there were warm,friendly, helpful and well informed. I was loving being there and enjoying the program. I had a roommate and about half way through the program he told me th</span><span class="text_exposed_show">at he had been asked to speak with me privately. He told me that Katrona was an Esoteric Section facility. That to attend the program one had to be an ES member; that it had been a mistake to invite me there since I was not an ES member and that I should join the ES or leave immediately.<span> </span><br/>I was astounded. I didn't even understand what the ES was so I asked some others there and they confirmed that it was an ES facility for ES members only. Immediately ,I called my wife and asked her to book me a flight home. She couldn't find a flight and I was scheduled to leave in a few days and already had an airplane ticket home. I decided that if it was a mistake to be there that it was their mistake for inviting me so I decided to stay to the end and take my scheduled flight home. I had no interest in joining a secret society within the TS so the best thing to do was to finish the program,leave and never go back.<br/>Before all of this happened , I took a tour around the place and it is magnificent. However, there was one old derelict building that was deteriorating badly. It was the original home of Annie Bessant and Judah Krishnamurti. They told me that it was scheduled for demolition. I had a business in new Orleans that restored old homes and I offered to restore that building as I thought that it had an important historical significance. I was told that the owner wanted it torn down. I asked who was the owner and I was told that the entire Katrona property was privately owned by some man around the Chicago area. Upon learning that I decided to hold off my offer to restore the building until I cold get more information. I learned more, but I did not like what I was learning. As an attorney, I offered to arrange to have the title of the property returned to the TS. However, I was told that was impossible.<span> </span><br/>My conclusion was that the business operations of the TS in America were being poorly managed. I was afraid that I had accidentally uncoveredered some information that was intended to remain secret. Later, I recieved an apology and was told that it was a mistake to tell me those things about Katrona. But the damage was done.<br/>I love Theosophy ,but I dont really like the business practices of the leadership. It was my decision to avoid the National I orginization and to remain active in our local group in New Orleans.<span> </span><br/>Sorry for this long explanation, but I don't want anything to be misinterpreted, exaggerated or misunderstood. Thanks.</span></p>
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